When will this shit end?

[StuMalinas]

1 minute ago, StuMalinas said:

Hopefully we have seen our last 10,000 cases day!! 

[stuartbert two hats]

24 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Irish NPHET now calling for a lockdown even after covid stops being an issue, to ensure that the extra waiting lists can be caught up on.

 

Don’t these muppets have any shame? 

Overstretched healthcare wants to deal with healthcare backlog caused by pandemic makes them Muppets? Don't be ridiculous.

[stuartbert two hats]

23 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

do we know this for sure?

We know for sure that it might.

[BobWillis]

1 hour ago, xxialac said:

Reason we can't have the total-free-for-all you're envisaging as soon as you'd like is a combination of:

-cases starting at a high point today

- vaccines not 100% at stopping transmission, need more evidence of how effective in UK context

- some won't take the vaccine or can't take the vaccine and some of them at risk of hospitalisation/death/increased transmission

- schools opening expected to add a lot to R and will need time to monitor outcome of this before subsequent easing

- risk of variations

The last one can't be stressed enough. The more cases, the more variations. Keeping case numbers low reduces the risk of a problematic variation.

Once again you’re ignoring what I’m saying and it’s getting pretty tiresome. 
 

I said it makes sense to go slow until it’s clear that the vaccines are working in groups 1-4 by which point groups 5-9 will have had theirs too and will have the same level of protection which reduces severe disease and death by the numbers I provided. Wanting a normal life 4 months from now is not wanting a ‘free for all as soon as I’d like’ it’s about being measured until we have clear data that the vaccine rollout has been successful in those most at risk and then rapidly speeding up the roadmap while those much much less at risk are vaccinated. Anything else is being cautious for the sake of it. 

Point 1 - cases starting at a high point today - this is whataboutery. I’m not talking about speeding up loosening restrictions until April/May. 
Point 2 - Vaccines not 100% at stopping transmission - For a start that’s irrelevant if they prevent 98% of deaths by May, secondly if they don’t then what? Keep some restrictions until they can make a vaccine that does prevent transmission while deaths continue to be non existent? That would be insanity. 
Point 3 - some people won’t/can’t take the vaccine - herd immunity isn’t some crackpot theory that started last March. 
Point 4 - Schools reopening - not this again. 
Point 5 - risk of variations - we can’t stay in limbo until the whole world is vaccinated based on a what if scenario. Here’s a clue for you, if vaccine passports are being talked about as a means for brits to holiday abroad then this country is not going for a zero covid approach, therefore variants will always be in play. 

[StuMalinas]

does anyone know when the Novavax is coming online and how many we are due to recieve

[stuartbert two hats]

11 minutes ago, StuMalinas said:

Hopefully we have seen our last 10,000 cases day!! 

Sadly doubtful, isn't this one of the reporting lag days?

[duke88]

Oh dear, cases where I live (Peterborough) have actually gone up 7.4% over the last week. And they were already well above the national average. How on earth have we managed that?!

[StuMalinas]

Just now, stuartbert two hats said:

Sadly doubtful, isn't this one of the reporting lag days?

We can hope but I really think by this time next week it will be a constant <10,000 per day

[stuartbert two hats]

3 minutes ago, StuMalinas said:

We can hope but I really think by this time next week it will be a constant <10,000 per day

Yeah, I think it's highly unlikely we'll have another Sunday > 10,000.

[fraybentos1]

1 hour ago, MrBarry465 said:

Its potentially the LSD / Booze.

LETS NOT FORGET WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A PANDEMIC FFS

A lot of people have suffered and died. Lets not obsess over 'WHEN CAN I GET DOWN THE FACKIN PUB'

We must build better from this.

Cheers and I will see you all at the stone circle in 2022. 

As long as you can keep flying internationally during a pandemic that's all that matters👍

[incident]

3 minutes ago, StuMalinas said:

does anyone know when the Novavax is coming online and how many we are due to recieve

Difficult to answer with any confidence. The company has said that the UK manufacturing should be up and running in March or April, and initially will be exclusively producing the 60 million doses we've ordered. It's contracted (via the Government) to an experienced / established company and so shouldn't be too much of a bottleneck.

However - they've probably not yet got enough data for approval - when they made their announcement 3 weeks ago, it was based on approximately half as many confirmed cases as the data that the 3 approved vaccines have submitted. So it's quite probable that the approval will be the determining factor in terms of timescales.

[Fuzzy Afro]

13 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Sadly doubtful, isn't this one of the reporting lag days?

Reporting lags are applicable to deaths, not cases

[MrBarry465]

3 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

As long as you can keep flying internationally during a pandemic that's all that matters👍

Dont bust my balls you little shit bag 

[fraybentos1]

3 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

Dont bust my balls you little shit bag 

Just calling out hypocrisy when I see it 🙂 

It's bizarre to me that the ones in this thread that want the longest lockdown are also the frequent fliers here...

 

[MrBarry465]

2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Just calling out hypocrisy when I see it 🙂 

It's bizarre to me that the ones in this thread that want the longest lockdown are also the frequent fliers here...

 

 

"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment--to be a product...of ME."

[stuartbert two hats]

10 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Reporting lags are applicable to deaths, not cases

I hadn't realised that!

[BobWillis]

What time do we reckon Peston will tweet the bulk of the roadmap, after Gove spills the beans to him, 10pm? 11pm? 

[StuMalinas]

16 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Reporting lags are applicable to deaths, not cases

Thats what I thought so hopefully we can expect a week of under 10,000 cases

[StuMalinas]

17 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

Dont bust my balls you little shit bag 

no need for that is there Barry... come on 

[MrBarry465]

We should all just get some humility - shut the fuck up about cases. Ita a pendmic people are suffeiring, have a little respect. 

I'll say it once, this harship is nothing - wait for tthe next 10 years. Climate change is real and this pandemic aint nothing.

[MrBarry465]

1 minute ago, StuMalinas said:

no need for that is there Barry... come on 

Dont you start 😅

[StuMalinas]

2 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

We should all just get some humility - shut the fuck up about cases. Ita a pendmic people are suffeiring, have a little respect. 

I'll say it once, this harship is nothing - wait for tthe next 10 years. Climate change is real and this pandemic aint nothing.

then surely jetsetting around the world  is not helping with climate change yet your doing it..... Hypocrisy 

[fraybentos1]

2 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

We should all just get some humility - shut the fuck up about cases. Ita a pendmic people are suffeiring, have a little respect. 

I'll say it once, this harship is nothing - wait for tthe next 10 years. Climate change is real and this pandemic aint nothing.

Once again, how on earth can you spout stuff like this whilst flying internationally? You're a strange man

[StuMalinas]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

Once again, how on earth can you spout stuff like this whilst flying internationally? You're a strange man

Totally agree!

[Mr.Tease]

35 minutes ago, StuMalinas said:

does anyone know when the Novavax is coming online and how many we are due to recieve

I was also wondering this the other day, the i paper said this last month:

The new vaccine should be available in the second half of 2021, if approved for use by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), the Government said.