Tour Announcements & Upcoming Gigs

[nikkic]

On 11/10/2023 at 6:57 PM, FloopFiller said:

It wasn’t the train wreck it’s often talked of, but they made some weird choices, playing a lot of new unheard material and leaving out a bunch of their more well known songs. Tbh they were in a tricky spot either way because most of that crowd were just there to get a space for Foos and couldn’t give a f**k so I don’t think it would’ve made a difference even if they played a ‘hits’ set. 

Rule one of festivals, play the hits.

Second rule of festivals, if in doubt refer to rule one. 

[NorthernSoul52]

16 hours ago, nikkic said:

Rule one of festivals, play the hits.

Second rule of festivals, if in doubt refer to rule one. 

This is to suggest The National have hits, per se. That large glut of new material aside - and I won't deny it was a large glut, because it was - I'd argue the rest of their selection was as near as you might get.

[Ayrshire Chris]

17 hours ago, nikkic said:

Rule one of festivals, play the hits.

Second rule of festivals, if in doubt refer to rule one. 

Yes, nothing causes a murmur around a festival audience that might not be full of devoted fans of a band than when they say we’ve a new album out and we are playing most of it today😉😊

[Guest]

41 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

This is to suggest The National have hits, per se. That large glut of new material aside - and I won't deny it was a large glut, because it was - I'd argue the rest of their selection was as near as you might get.

The National perfected a greatest hits setlist in 2022. They stuck to the whole setlist the entire tour. It went down a storm.

They're going looser now, but if they wanted a 'hits' setlist they just need to use a similar run of tracks to that tour.

[NorthernSoul52]

24 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said:

The National perfected a greatest hits setlist in 2022. They stuck to the whole setlist the entire tour. It went down a storm.

They're going looser now, but if they wanted a 'hits' setlist they just need to use a similar run of tracks to that tour.

Fair enough. I think The National are one of those bands where - because of a relative lack of obvious singles success - the greatest hits can be quite subjective. But I digress!

[Guest]

Just now, NorthernSoul52 said:

Fair enough. I think The National are one of those bands where - because of a relative lack of obvious singles success - the greatest hits can be quite subjective. But I digress!

Oh I agree, I just meant if they wanted a crowd pleaser setlist they've done one.

[NorthernSoul52]

1 hour ago, scatteredscreens said:

Oh I agree, I just meant if they wanted a crowd pleaser setlist they've done one.

Ah, my apologies! You're bang on. Cracking tunes there in that run.

[charlierc]

What would a pre-SWB greatest hits set had looked like for that show at Glasto? I'm aware both of Guilty Party and Walk It Back together was excessive given that's 12 minutes of new song.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, charlierc said:

What would a pre-SWB greatest hits set had looked like for that show at Glasto? I'm aware both of Guilty Party and Walk It Back together was excessive given that's 12 minutes of new song.

Something like this? Sticking to 12 songs.

1. I Should Live In Salt
2. Bloodbuzz Ohio
3. Mistaken For Strangers
4. Don't Swallow The Cap
5. Lemonworld
6. Slow Show
7. I Need My Girl
8. England
9. Fake Empire
10. About Today
11. Mr. November
12. Terrible Love

[Superscally]

54 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:

Something like this? Sticking to 12 songs.

1. I Should Live In Salt
2. Bloodbuzz Ohio
3. Mistaken For Strangers
4. Don't Swallow The Cap
5. Lemonworld
6. Slow Show
7. I Need My Girl
8. England
9. Fake Empire
10. About Today
11. Mr. November
12. Terrible Love

12 is my lucky number, so I'll swap About Today out and drop Vanderlyle at the end

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:

Something like this? Sticking to 12 songs.

1. I Should Live In Salt
2. Bloodbuzz Ohio
3. Mistaken For Strangers
4. Don't Swallow The Cap
5. Lemonworld
6. Slow Show
7. I Need My Girl
8. England
9. Fake Empire
10. About Today
11. Mr. November
12. Terrible Love

I think at that point, System Only Dreams... had come out so playing that wouldn't have been a mega sin. About Today feels like one that could've made the roster too.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I think at that point, System Only Dreams... had come out so playing that wouldn't have been a mega sin. About Today feels like one that could've made the roster too.

I thought the criteria was pre SWB 😅 also I have About Today, number 10.

[Guest]

But yeah swap The System... with Lemonworld then.

[charlierc]

2 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:

I thought the criteria was pre SWB 😅 also I have About Today, number 10.

I admit it sounds like I'm moving the goalposts haha.

Just checked and System Only Dreams... was released about 6 weeks before Glasto 17, so there's an argument for that one.

About Today is more that I'm surprised they didn't play it at that show, not the fact you had it as I just noted you did. Mistaken for Strangers is also a favourite so I'd be happy with that making the cut as it does in your setlist, and indeed, it was one of my favourites when I saw them at Ally Pally the other week.

[NorthernSoul52]

Again, I went in blind - I think the only one I knew was Mr. November. But with the benefit of hindsight, About Today is a massive absence. Know it's a cliche, but about five months later, I watched Warrior for the first time, and the extended version of the song that scores its finale is just terrific stuff.

[Chef]

On 11/10/2023 at 10:44 PM, Gnomicide said:

Phwoargh...

That Foos/ QOTSA/ Cypress Hill clash....ouch 

[Skip997]

1 minute ago, TheEarl said:

That Foos/ QOTSA/ Cypress Hill clash....ouch 

It's not even a debate

Cypress Hill all the way

[The Nal]

The Smile
Thursday 7th March - Dublin - 3Arena
Wednesday 13th March - Copenhagen - K.B. Hallen
Friday 15th March - Brussels - Forest National
Saturday 16th March - Amsterdam - AFAS Live
Monday 18th March - Brighton - Brighton Centre
Tuesday 19th March - Manchester - 02 Apollo
Wednesday 20th March - Glasgow - SEC Armadillo
Friday 22nd March – Birmingham O2 Academy
Saturday 23rd March - London - Alexandra Palace

[mcbain55]

Sorry if this has been posted already further back. How amazing would this be at Glasto! 

[Skip997]

3 minutes ago, mcbain55 said:

Sorry if this has been posted already further back. How amazing would this be at Glasto!

Would be absolutely incredible.

Worth turning up only for this. 

[mcbain55]

Agreed...its a phenomenal album and never seen them live before. 

[broken monkey]

Saw Air headline the Other Stage on the Sunday in 2002, sadly was it was dull as dishwater (I remember some dude running around the stage wearing a cape.) Won't stop me seeing them again though if they returned.

[JayDiesel]

23 hours ago, scatteredscreens said:

The National perfected a greatest hits setlist in 2022. They stuck to the whole setlist the entire tour. It went down a storm.

They're going looser now, but if they wanted a 'hits' setlist they just need to use a similar run of tracks to that tour.

Agreed x100. I saw them in Primavera last year, right at the start of the festival run they went on, and the setlist that night was astonisinghly good - the perfect balance of hits to deep cuts and fan favourites, it stands out in my mind as being maybe the strongest setlist I've ever seen from a band. It was certainly the closest I'll ever see to my own choice of a setlist being played on stage.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-national/2022/parc-del-forum-barcelona-spain-23b4fc33.html

[The Nal]

2 minutes ago, broken monkey said:

Saw Air headline the Other Stage on the Sunday in 2002, sadly was it was dull as dishwater (I remember some dude running around the stage wearing a cape.) Won't stop me seeing them again though if they returned.

Yeah saw them before (cant remember when) and it was, fine. 

A lot of people standing aboiut gently nodding their heads from side to side.

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, JayDiesel said:

Agreed x100. I saw them in Primavera last year, right at the start of the festival run they went on, and the setlist that night was astonisinghly good - the perfect balance of hits to deep cuts and fan favourites, it stands out in my mind as being maybe the strongest setlist I've ever seen from a band. It was certainly the closest I'll ever see to my own choice of a setlist being played on stage.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-national/2022/parc-del-forum-barcelona-spain-23b4fc33.html

I was there too, it was a good setlist but I do prefer the wider deep cut setlists they do now.