when will get an announcement?

[eFestivals]

Educated guess Neil? I may be wrong but last time when pushed for a time frame it was earlier than that.

it is a guess, and nothing more than a guess.

But yes, it's an educated guess, based on things that have been said, that could mean a number of different things.

Note - it could be wildly wrong.

[A Guy Called Matt]

NOW

Meaning when you read it not now

[dentalplan]

As much as I'd like them to, I can't personally imagine them releasing after the window is shut considering the backlash they've already received for Kanye.

[eFestivals]

As much as I'd like them to, I can't personally imagine them releasing after the window is shut considering the backlash they've already received for Kanye.

that might be precisely why they don't announce until after.

How many people pay the tickets up without an announcement would show either way whether the fuss over Kanye was meaningful or not.

As a general idea, I go with the idea that they're likely to want to try to get some sort of measurement of whether there's a Kanye impact or not. If they announce something before the tickets need to be paid up then they don't get to make a decent measure of the impact.

Edited March 31, 2015 by eFestivals

[CJTM]

Has anyone got stats on how many have gone into the resale in recent years? Or is it not disclosed, I don't think I've ever seen numbers on it

[neil999]

that might be precisely why they don't announce until after.

How many people pay the tickets up without an announcement would show either way whether the fuss over Kanye was meaningful or not.

As a general idea, I go with the idea that they're likely to want to try to get some sort of measurement of whether there's a Kanye impact or not. If they announce something before the tickets need to be paid up then they don't get to make a decent measure of the impact.

for future booking tactics?

[Memory Man]

As much as I'd like them to, I can't personally imagine them releasing after the window is shut considering the backlash they've already received for Kanye.

If they do absolutely nothing between now and when the payment window closes they have got some serious balls.

The likes of which they've not had in previous years.

having said that they know full well it will sell out, its just that that has been the case year after year but they've still been pretty conservative about it i.e giving info at opportune times to remind people to pay.

[eFestivals]

Has anyone got stats on how many have gone into the resale in recent years? Or is it not disclosed, I don't think I've ever seen numbers on it

it's never been disclosed.

There's been a general suggestion of somewhere around 10,000, but whether that's particularly accurate I've no idea.

[stuartbert two hats]

We all get to win an entire week getting on with what whatever it is we're supposed to be doing rather than posting on here!

Come on sir, you've done this before. The lineup announcement only results in more speculation about when the times are out, whether they're in order, where Halvin has gone and desperate wondering of whether 'insert favourite band here' IS actually playing, but will be announced later. Plus indignation from The Spike having not announced any acts for the Thursday afternoon yet.

The announcement is just the beginning of the speculation!

[Avalon_Fields]

that might be precisely why they don't announce until after.

How many people pay the tickets up without an announcement would show either way whether the fuss over Kanye was meaningful or not.

As a general idea, I go with the idea that they're likely to want to try to get some sort of measurement of whether there's a Kanye impact or not. If they announce something before the tickets need to be paid up then they don't get to make a decent measure of the impact.

But why? Obviously the decision is made. Or is it to judge whether similar acts should be booked in future years?

[sparkythetortoise]

that might be precisely why they don't announce until after.

How many people pay the tickets up without an announcement would show either way whether the fuss over Kanye was meaningful or not.

As a general idea, I go with the idea that they're likely to want to try to get some sort of measurement of whether there's a Kanye impact or not. If they announce something before the tickets need to be paid up then they don't get to make a decent measure of the impact.

Wouldn't that full impact be better determined by seeing if other acts offset any negativity. Unless they intend to book Kanye every year, then finding out about him in particular doesn't tell you much. But finding out that a brave headliner doesn't matter in a great sea of alternative acts also announced is useful.

That said, I would greatly admire the Eavises if they did hold off - I truly despise the way the payment scheme had turned into an insurance policy for fair weather friends. It was meant to help people who struggled to afford the ticket price, and instead its used by people who can afford to throw away the deposit money if things aren't to their liking.

However, sadly, its what its become, and throwing down the Gauntlet by refusing to let these folk see the line up before paying up will now be seen as an outrage to their sense of entitlement. Isn't Eavis more concerned with a system that sells tickets - which he now seems to have - than taking the temperature of the anti Kanye movement and possibly destablishing sales for next year as people remember that they might not get to see the line up before balance paying?

[eFestivals]

But why? Obviously the decision is made. Or is it to judge whether similar acts should be booked in future years?

Why?

So Glastonbury can say to the press "all the stuff about Kanye was bollocks".

So Glastonbury can say to Kanye "don't worry, it's all bollocks".

So Glastonbury can say to its other acts "don't worry, you'll have an audience, all the fuss about Kanye was bollocks".

So Glastonbury can say to future bookings "don't worry, all the stuff about Kanye was bollocks".

Etc, etc, etc.

The way to make the haters STFU is with facts, and Glasto are the ones in a position to get themselves some facts.

[monkey1989]

Why would they need to measure the impact of kanye west ? Theres not many other artists out there like him , the backlash is because of his personality his music is strong.

They have already released a response spouting off stats would be unnecessary . If people are as petty as to not pay up just means longer to sell off the tickets

Edited March 31, 2015 by monkey1989

[FuzzyDunlop]

Did someone* say that last year's initial poster announcement was a bit rushed? It was not due, but rushed through after a slow amount of tickets being bought up to then that point?

(*That someone may have been Matt when I think of it!!)

[Untz]

The announcement is just the beginning of the speculation!

Yep, and even when you get back it's why didn't I go see that, what were the secret sets etc etc.

The only brief respite you get is when you're actually on site and you're having too much of a good time to care.

[eFestivals]

Why would they need to measure the impact of kanye west ?

"need" is not what I'm suggesting. "able to" is.

Why wouldn't they take the opportunity to show it as empty bullshit, if that's what it is?

The reputation of the festival has been impacted on by the anti-Kanye noise, and because of the numbers who signed the petition (the same number as weekend tickets). With a bit of easy analysis Glasto could (probably) blow that away, and give themselves some protection from future petitions impacting on them in the same way.

I've no idea if Glasto are thinking like this, but it seems a perfectly rational and sensible option even if there's other options

[Untz]

Did someone* say that last year's initial poster announcement was a bit rushed? It was not due, but rushed through after a slow amount of tickets being bought up to then that point?

(*That someone may have been Matt when I think of it!!)

If that's true I wouldn't be surprised if they have one in reserve, just in case.

I don't see any major line up announcements other than the 3rd headliner coming for a while.

[michael eavis' beard]

that might be precisely why they don't announce until after.

How many people pay the tickets up without an announcement would show either way whether the fuss over Kanye was meaningful or not.

As a general idea, I go with the idea that they're likely to want to try to get some sort of measurement of whether there's a Kanye impact or not. If they announce something before the tickets need to be paid up then they don't get to make a decent measure of the impact.

This is one of the reasons why I guessed the day after the window closes.

I think they've probably come far enough since 2008 to be as confident as they can be that the festival will sell out. It will be interesting for them to see what impact the 2 headliners named so far and the general secrecy around the rest of the lineup will have on balance payments.

I've mentioned this in other threads but this could be a sign of things to come in the future. Could/Would they ever risk releasing the lineup later and later each year?! The balance payment window is actually a bit of a false point of no return as you can still get a refund until whatever the date is in May. Leaving the lineup release until after this point may be too much but it'd be interesting to see how far they could push it and how many would stick with it.

[A Guy Called Matt]

Did someone* say that last year's initial poster announcement was a bit rushed? It was not due, but rushed through after a slow amount of tickets being bought up to then that point?

(*That someone may have been Matt when I think of it!!)

Matt42 says most things so probably was him...............

Do you really think they rushed a poster? The poster was ready for when the wanted to release it.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

8am on Wednesday 8th April, to reward those who kept the faith and bought tickets no matter who plays

[A13]

Why would they need to measure the impact of kanye west ? Theres not many other artists out there like him , the backlash is because of his personality his music is strong.

They have already released a response spouting off stats would be unnecessary . If people are as petty as to not pay up just means longer to sell off the tickets

Punctuation required.

[eFestivals]

Could/Would they ever risk releasing the lineup later and later each year?!

yes.

[The_Amazing_Oblong]

I reckon the majority of signees for 'that petition' have never, will never and have no intention of ever getting tickets. The few that signed it that do have tickets will be first timers who think the Pyramid stage is the be all and end all of the festival (and have a pleasant suprise awaiting them).

I reckon they will drop the lineup at some point during balance payment week.

[FloorFiller]

man i'd love them to release the lineup after the payment window closed - would give me that extra bit of help in securing a ticket in the resale. not sure whether they'd go for it, but all of Neil's points are pretty strong

[eFestivals]

I reckon the majority of signees for 'that petition' have never, will never and have no intention of ever getting tickets. The few that signed it that do have tickets will be first timers who think the Pyramid stage is the be all and end all of the festival (and have a pleasant suprise awaiting them).

yep, lots of people seem to be thinking that, tho i know that the sheer numbers ythat have signed have also got a few people both inside and outside of Glasto a bit worried.

So far, there's only assumptions to work from. People don't like assumptions when real facts can be got to know for sure.