Electronica/Dance

[Matt42]

13 minutes ago, The60ftOctopus said:

Wow

cant believe the truth in this

[FloorFiller]

Beat Hotel then yeah?

[ghostdancer1]

i would have liked some banging techno, but i'd probably check these out if I happened to be in the area:

Jackmaster

Jasper James

Boys Noize

Goldie

Jon Hopkins

Roni Size doing New Forms live

 

probably won't catch any of them mind, but decent enough options I suppose.

could have done with an Adam Beyer, Nina Kraviz, Marcel Dettmann, Blawan/Karenn, Chris Liebing, etc. though.

[Mezhyp1]

2 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Beat Hotel then yeah?

Oh definitely 

Though, Jackmaster said he was holding a mastermix stage somewhere, it could be Beat Hotel, which would see even more repetition 

I'm not going to complain too much though, there's a good time to be had at Glastonbury regardless who's playing 

[willsnewman]

Jon Hopkins only for me. Which is good because I don't really like Arcadia.

[Browner's Right]

37 minutes ago, The60ftOctopus said:

Coldcut and Goldie are pretty sweet. Are Noisia playing on every stage ffs? 

8 acts on Friday

7 on Saturday

9 on Sunday

Probably nothing since i'm including B2B sets but there might be some surprises to come?

 

P Kalkbrenner was added the week before the festival last year so there's still hope for more names

[your mother]

14 minutes ago, Mezhyp1 said:

Oh definitely 

Though, Jackmaster said he was holding a mastermix stage somewhere, it could be Beat Hotel, which would see even more repetition 

I'm not going to complain too much though, there's a good time to be had at Glastonbury regardless who's playing 

Edit could be Friday night saying look it's wee jackys mastermix

[Matt42]

Can in your hand, sun going down, beat hotel, vibes

[Cieran]

Arcadia quite honestly have no idea what techno is

[Matt42]

7 minutes ago, Cieran said:

Arcadia quite honestly have no idea what techno is

I feel this is the issue with Glastonbury this year, they consider patrick topping, jackmaster and bicep to be 'techno' because they wack out the occasional track over 126bpm in their sets. 

Fairplay to Block 9 they've booked a few proper techno DJs, but it seems like the Glastonbury bookers are solely going with what's popular and not giving variety. 

I don't agree that booking all out techno artists is a difficulty - there are plenty of acts that are UK based that could do the job.
I'm surprised at the lack of Cleric, The Livity Sound lot, Timedance (only having Hodge booked), Fold, Cosmin TRG etc... all UK based techno artists that I doubt command high fees. Just seems like Elrow has become the loudest voice in the dance community.

[Matt42]

7 minutes ago, Cieran said:

Arcadia quite honestly have no idea what techno is

I feel this is the issue with Glastonbury this year, they consider patrick topping, jackmaster and bicep to be 'techno' because they wack out the occasional track over 126bpm in their sets. 

Fairplay to Block 9 they've booked a few proper techno DJs, but it seems like the Glastonbury bookers are solely going with what's popular and not giving variety. 

I don't agree that booking all out techno artists is a difficulty - there are plenty of acts that are UK based that could do the job.
I'm surprised at the lack of Cleric, The Livity Sound lot, Timedance (only having Hodge booked), Fold, Cosmin TRG etc... all UK based techno artists that I doubt command high fees. Just seems like Elrow has become the loudest voice in the dance community.

[Browner's Right]

39 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

I feel this is the issue with Glastonbury this year, they consider patrick topping, jackmaster and bicep to be 'techno' because they wack out the occasional track over 126bpm in their sets. 

Fairplay to Block 9 they've booked a few proper techno DJs, but it seems like the Glastonbury bookers are solely going with what's popular and not giving variety. 

I don't agree that booking all out techno artists is a difficulty - there are plenty of acts that are UK based that could do the job.
I'm surprised at the lack of Cleric, The Livity Sound lot, Timedance (only having Hodge booked), Fold, Cosmin TRG etc... all UK based techno artists that I doubt command high fees. Just seems like Elrow has become the loudest voice in the dance community.

Good post - bookers do appear to be on the lazy side when booking electronic acts, bar Block 9.

[Memory Man]

Ive mentioned the lazy bookings before, it seems true to an extent this year but we await the full line up still!

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Cieran said:

Arcadia quite honestly have no idea what techno is

I honestly have no idea what Techno is. The tracks I hear that are apparently techno sound absolutely nothing like what came out of Detroit.

Can someone post a mix that defines what Techno actually is in 2017?

[payneruk]

20 minutes ago, eastynh said:

I honestly have no idea what Techno is. The tracks I hear that are apparently techno sound absolutely nothing like what came out of Detroit.

Can someone post a mix that defines what Techno actually is in 2017?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but techno is split into various sub genres. Minimal, Detroit etc.

Most of the dance lineup this year is tech house which is a mix of house and techno.

[ghostdancer1]

22 minutes ago, eastynh said:

I honestly have no idea what Techno is. The tracks I hear that are apparently techno sound absolutely nothing like what came out of Detroit.

Can someone post a mix that defines what Techno actually is in 2017?

well this is the kind of techno I'd like, which is lacking from the festival. I suspect it's the kind of thing @bennyhana22 would like too:

 

 

 

 

[Time Being]

Someone on here should start a techno stage at the festival, in all seriousness

[ghostdancer1]

@Matt42 has already volunteered to bang out a set of industrial techno, give him a slot Emily!

[OBface]

Felix Dickinson closing Genosys this year.

[ghostdancer1]

Floorplan/Robert Hood doing the Essential Mix tonight

[Mezhyp1]

Jackmaster and Kurupt Fm are both playing in Stonebridge Bar on the same night

[Madyaker]

Has benny seen the Arcadia announcement yet?

[bennyhana22]

24 minutes ago, Madyaker said:

Has benny seen the Arcadia announcement yet?

I sort of vented my already shriveled and over-vented spleen on the Arcadia thread:

 

Here's the point, team.

This is not about the techno snobs simply whining, or having a go at the other genres on the line-up.

It's just an observation that there is, proportionately so little genuine techno on the overall line-up compared to other genres.

No, Glastonbury is not a 'dance' festival, but the dance element is a huge part of the line-up, entertaining a significant proportion of the festival goers, both at night and earlier in the days. Given that, it's not unreasonable to think that the profile of the genres would be not dissimilar to the more dance-orientated festivals.

This year there is a huge amount of DnB, a huge amount of tech-house, a significant amount of house/disco and very little techno. the relative proportions do not, IMO, reflect the broader clubbing picture today, where techno remains right up there with the most popular genres. In fact, if you look in Mixmag (you might choose not to!) they give a 'chart' of the relative popularity of the different genres based on number of attendees, events, etc. Over the last few years tech-house and techno have see-sawed over and under one another as numbers 1 and 2 in the list, and whilst tech-house is clearly the most populous current genre in terms of those who go to dance to it (for many reasons which I won't go into here, for fear of being branded a techno snob!), techno remains number 2.

Is that popularity reflected in the number of each genre's artists so far announced at Glastonbury? Not even close. And, though the most highly (over...) paid DJs in the world are mostly techno DJs, as others have said here and elsewhere, there are LOADS of fantastic artists, many British who are well within Glastonbury's budget and who would give a bit more variety to this year's line up.

I know Patrick Topping is flavour of the month at the moment, but when you see him listed for all three main days but your favourite genre is significantly under-represented, it just grates a bit.

At least Jon Hopkins is playing the Spider and I will be there. And, there is just about enough techno on the line-up, but the artists would need not to clash much at all!

Ben

 

 

Thank fuck for Jon Hopkins. I'm guessing he'll get the Daniel Avery slot from last year - which I didn't go to as I was up to my neck in bands and had loads on the night-time menu. No way I'm missing JH this year as it will almost certainly be my only venture to the Spider.

As I have mentioned before, the ongoing paucity of techno is girding in me a real desire to nail a seamless schedule by a military level review of the line-up. I may have to put in even more mileage than usual, but dance I will and dance I will to bloody good stuff. Or I'll just stay at Genosys!

Ben

[bennyhana22]

4 hours ago, eastynh said:

I honestly have no idea what Techno is. The tracks I hear that are apparently techno sound absolutely nothing like what came out of Detroit.

Can someone post a mix that defines what Techno actually is in 2017?

 

4 hours ago, ghostdancer1 said:

well this is the kind of techno I'd like, which is lacking from the festival. I suspect it's the kind of thing @bennyhana22 would like too:

 

 

 

 

Spot on, as ever, @ghostdancer1

@eastynh - these sets epitomise what most who love the genre would think of as typical (and quite brilliant) modern techno. 

4 hours ago, payneruk said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but techno is split into various sub genres. Minimal, Detroit etc.

Most of the dance lineup this year is tech house which is a mix of house and techno.

@payneruk - it's all too easy to disappear up one's arse getting too uppity about genre labels, but I do think that there is a pretty much acknowledged differentiation between techno and tech-house, today. Of course they came from the same place, but have diverged from one another and are very much distinctive. Saying that, there is tech-house that can be more 'techy' and techno that can be a bit 'housey', but for most of us the distinction is clear.

Tech-house is, by and large, major chord driven, catchy and hooky, often with vocal samples that the crowd loves to recognise and sing.

Techno is, by and large, minor chord driven (with many fewer chord progressions), with minimal or (ideally!) no vocal sampling (or when it is, highly processed and chopped up) that is loved for its repetitive, trance-inducing relentlessness!

Rodhad (sorry, no fancy foreign letters on this PC!) is a perfect example of a modern master of techno at work.

Ben

[Matt42]

i'm hoping we get Pearson Sound doing the 4:00 - 6:00 slot at the London Underground on Saturday because he will almost certainty wack out the techno for that!

I just wanna see some sick DJs from 4am - 6am lol. I hope Blawan is put on late as fuck and not super early.

Block 9 has really gone all out there this year, seems like it's the dance area thats really thought about its lineup well.

I've also never seen an act in the London Underground and it looks sick so i'm hoping Blawan, Pearson Sound, Steffi & Virginia are all placed there. Seems like a perfectly sweaty industrial venue.

@bennyhana22