Electronica/Dance

[bennyhana22]

4 minutes ago, gfa said:

The Glade is already rammed on thurs though, not sure this would really help out much as much as it would be nice

Yeah, I didn't mean necessarily in Glade per se, just that it's a good sound for a Thursday! Bottom line is that, now, the festival really does need to try to make more spaces available with some 'entertainment', spread around the site and in keeping with the licence regs. With 'everyone' now arriving on Wednesday, I think there is a real expectation that there will be things to do/places to dance for those that want it on the Thursday. For festivals that 'only' open on the Thursday, that's a bit easier, but that's not Glastonbury. Certainly not anymore. 

Ben

[Franky]

Love that spreadsheet! I will be printing off the relevant years information and tucking that in my back pocket! 

 

2010 all over again!  

[BambooShanks]

With Aphex Twin doing Best Kept Secret a couple of weeks before Glasto, does that put him in the frame to make an appearance?  As far as I can tell, his Field Day date isn't billed as an UK exclusive so is the dream alive?

[gfa]

21 minutes ago, BambooShanks said:

With Aphex Twin doing Best Kept Secret a couple of weeks before Glasto, does that put him in the frame to make an appearance?  As far as I can tell, his Field Day date isn't billed as an UK exclusive so is the dream alive?

Can't see anything billing it as an exclusive and was booked for 2022 (before pulling out) ... so good chance yes

[BambooShanks]

2 minutes ago, gfa said:

Can't see anything billing it as an exclusive and was booked for 2022 (before pulling out) ... so good chance yes

Perfect. Him on arcadia is a match made in electronica heaven

[Memory Man]

West holts headliner would be a real coup. Feel like its more of a secret / arcadia dj set for him than the full shebang but who knows.

whilst we’re at it chems back on the other stage i wouldnt be mad at! 

[gfa]

6 minutes ago, Memory Man said:

West holts headliner would be a real coup. Feel like its more of a secret / arcadia dj set for him than the full shebang but who knows.

whilst we’re at it chems back on the other stage i wouldnt be mad at! 

That's where he was booked before

Chems isn't happening i think, not live anyway. Really not sure what they are doing at the moment this is their second summer of heavy touring (some shows in 2021 too) with still no new songs out from this upcoming album really (that should be this year, but probably post summer at this point)

Edited February 7, 2023 by gfa

[danbailey80]

3 hours ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Yeah, love this. Thanks for sharing, that'll be the soundtrack for this morning.

This has prompted my yearly request for an evening curated by the likes of Anjunadeep or Afterlife. Yotto, ToU, Bohmer, Luttrell, Marsh, Wisternoff, etc. Some deep, hypnotic, melodic techno among the trees would be amazing.

I can't see Anjunadeep hosting a tent etc as they have their own festivals. 

Also for some bizarre reason you don't get any of this type of music at Glastonbury (apart from some at Glade) Silver Hayes/ SWC have the same genres every bloody year. It's only Glade that does anything different. 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

8 minutes ago, danbailey80 said:

I can't see Anjunadeep hosting a tent etc as they have their own festivals. 

Also for some bizarre reason you don't get any of this type of music at Glastonbury (apart from some at Glade) Silver Hayes/ SWC have the same genres every bloody year. It's only Glade that does anything different. 

Yeah, that's a great point. 

Yep, too much DnB, too much tech house, more variety in electronica required across the whole week. Amapiano and afro house were mentioned today, the former has exploded in the last year. Whether it's a short trend or here to stay for some time, new music should always be encouraged. There's definitely room to introduce some harder techno, psy-trance, melodic techno, juke, breaks, experimental, etc...

[bennyhana22]

1 hour ago, danbailey80 said:

I can't see Anjunadeep hosting a tent etc as they have their own festivals. 

Also for some bizarre reason you don't get any of this type of music at Glastonbury (apart from some at Glade) Silver Hayes/ SWC have the same genres every bloody year. It's only Glade that does anything different. 

 

51 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Yeah, that's a great point. 

Yep, too much DnB, too much tech house, more variety in electronica required across the whole week. Amapiano and afro house were mentioned today, the former has exploded in the last year. Whether it's a short trend or here to stay for some time, new music should always be encouraged. There's definitely room to introduce some harder techno, psy-trance, melodic techno, juke, breaks, experimental, etc...

Unfortunately, but kind of understandably, the festival is catering to a 'general' festival crowd. As such, they're always likely to veer towards more 'mainstream' genres and artists, as a default model. Some of the areas (well, Block9!) seem to have a more autonomous, adventurous approach, which is great...but...look at the programming for IICON's first year. There was a lot of pretty leftfield, more experimental electronica on there watched by...not very many people, relatively speaking.

The thing is, most of us in here are really into electronic and dance music, so we're more open to exploring stuff that is challenging to us, new and adventurous. No disrespect to the average festival punter, but they're not. They're delighted to see the same bands every year, thrilled that so and so have reformed well beyond their sell-by date, for a late-career dial-in-the-set cash-in.

So, GFL have to cater, to a great degree, to what people want. The experimental aspect is always going to be small-fry. I mean, (and please don't take offence!) I wouldn't watch Calvin Harris if he played in my back garden, but the Arcadia field had arguably it's biggest ever crowd.

For me, it's about scrutinising that line-up to within an inch of its life, and I always uncover some little gems. Last year's? Client_03 and Sama' Abdulhadi, the latter delivering possibly the set of the weekend on IICON.

Aphex on Arcadia? Yup, that'll do, Donkey - but I'm not sure it would be a massive 'success' crowd-wise! After 10 minutes, 58% of those there would be asking "WTF is this!"!! Personally I see IICON as the natural home for Mr James. Now that would be iiconic...

Ben

Ben

Edited February 7, 2023 by bennyhana22

[BambooShanks]

12 minutes ago, bennyhana22 said:

I see IICON as the natural home for Mr James. Now that would be iiconic...

I take back my earlier suggestion.  That would be mind meltingly spectacular

[gfa]

51 minutes ago, bennyhana22 said:

Unfortunately, but kind of understandably, the festival is catering to a 'general' festival crowd. As such, they're always likely to veer towards more 'mainstream' genres and artists, as a default model. Some of the areas (well, Block9!) seem to have a more autonomous, adventurous approach, which is great...but...look at the programming for IICON's first year. There was a lot of pretty leftfield, more experimental electronica on there watched by...not very many people, relatively speaking.

IICON is pretty much the biggest dance stage though (more people can hear it than at Arcadia probably!)

They can definitely book these kinds of acts just don't put them at such a large stage! There is a place for more adventurous programming - its just not in such a big field. Thing is Block 9 obviously don't want to lose their land but that field is just too big for what they were trying to do. Last year was a good balance 🙂 

[danbailey80]

1 hour ago, bennyhana22 said:

 

Unfortunately, but kind of understandably, the festival is catering to a 'general' festival crowd. As such, they're always likely to veer towards more 'mainstream' genres and artists, as a default model. Some of the areas (well, Block9!) seem to have a more autonomous, adventurous approach, which is great...but...look at the programming for IICON's first year. There was a lot of pretty leftfield, more experimental electronica on there watched by...not very many people, relatively speaking.

The thing is, most of us in here are really into electronic and dance music, so we're more open to exploring stuff that is challenging to us, new and adventurous. No disrespect to the average festival punter, but they're not. They're delighted to see the same bands every year, thrilled that so and so have reformed well beyond their sell-by date, for a late-career dial-in-the-set cash-in.

So, GFL have to cater, to a great degree, to what people want. The experimental aspect is always going to be small-fry. I mean, (and please don't take offence!) I wouldn't watch Calvin Harris if he played in my back garden, but the Arcadia field had arguably it's biggest ever crowd.

For me, it's about scrutinising that line-up to within an inch of its life, and I always uncover some little gems. Last year's? Client_03 and Sama' Abdulhadi, the latter delivering possibly the set of the weekend on IICON.

Aphex on Arcadia? Yup, that'll do, Donkey - but I'm not sure it would be a massive 'success' crowd-wise! After 10 minutes, 58% of those there would be asking "WTF is this!"!! Personally I see IICON as the natural home for Mr James. Now that would be iiconic...

Ben

Ben

I totally understand this and that Glasto have to cater the masses.

However, I'd say there is an outlier that the Anjunadeep type music and some trance, which is absolutely massive elsewhere, is not represented more. Surely there's a big cross over the Anjunadeep/ Anjunabeats crowd? 

I wonder if it's cost (and competition for their own run festivals which I said above), as these DJs do get big crowds elsewhere and therefore prob command large wages that doesn't suit Glasto.

Also the Anjuna Djs arent big known names without the Anjunadeep/beats label over the line up so they'd need a whole evening in a tent which Anjuna wouldn't want due to their onw festival/ nights elsewhere. 

So maybe they not worth the cost considering they wouldn't get such a massive pull as they do elsewhere. For the same money they can prob get 4 average Drum n Bass DJs to each play 4 sets across the weekend. Shame.

[bennyhana22]

38 minutes ago, danbailey80 said:

I totally understand this and that Glasto have to cater the masses.

However, I'd say there is an outlier that the Anjunadeep type music and some trance, which is absolutely massive elsewhere, is not represented more. Surely there's a big cross over the Anjunadeep/ Anjunabeats crowd? 

I wonder if it's cost (and competition for their own run festivals which I said above), as these DJs do get big crowds elsewhere and therefore prob command large wages that doesn't suit Glasto.

Also the Anjuna Djs arent big known names without the Anjunadeep/beats label over the line up so they'd need a whole evening in a tent which Anjuna wouldn't want due to their onw festival/ nights elsewhere. 

So maybe they not worth the cost considering they wouldn't get such a massive pull as they do elsewhere. For the same money they can prob get 4 average Drum n Bass DJs to each play 4 sets across the weekend. Shame.

Totally agree. And, for me, it's really frustrating as you basically get TWO proper psytrance sets over the whole weekend! Last year they were after Bicep, in the Glade Dome, it was absolutely rammed and probably the best crowd of the whole weekend! I reckon they could pack out that sort of set many times over. But no, let's have Patrick Topping playing three sets 😉.

Ben

[danbailey80]

Anyone been to any of the On The Beach Brighton events?
 

I’m tempted with the Carl Cox one as has Sasha and Digweed and Franky Wah on same bill.

is the volume too quiet etc?
 

Edited February 7, 2023 by danbailey80

[Willy-wam-wam-wozzle]

19 minutes ago, danbailey80 said:

Anyone been to any of the On The Beach Brighton events?
 

I’m tempted with the Carl Cox one as has Sasha and Digweed and Franky Wah on same bill.

is the volume too quiet etc?
 

Not been, had tickets the last two years but couldn’t go for various reasons.

I live about 3 miles east and could pretty much hear all of Fatboy Slims set last year. So reckon it should be okay in there. Worth noting that it’s actually on the beach so, unless they put flooring down, it’s going to be on pebbles.

[Dan Eazy]

On 2/7/2023 at 10:12 AM, IceCreamVan said:

This is just amazing 😍 I love dance music, especially at Glastonbury, but knowing who plays what just confuses me (despite being named festival mum and expected to know where everyone should go). Will use this year's sheet as a guide then wander where my ears take me 🎉

There will be a new one for this year once names start dropping 🙂

[Twiggy553]

Aphex is playing Field Day this year but tbh (and I say this as a big fan) he is very hit and miss live, more miss than hit tbh.

If I was in the area i’d go see him but i’d want a backup plan nearby so I could bail  out.

[BambooShanks]

6 minutes ago, Twiggy553 said:

(and I say this as a big fan) he is very hit and miss live, more miss than hit tbh

I completely get that and if given the choice, would much rather him play iicon or Arcadia than headline a mainstage - mainly to avoid any potential clash headaches and 10pm just feels too early to have your head melted by him.

 

[listenstolotsofcrap]

52 minutes ago, Twiggy553 said:

(and I say this as a big fan) he is very hit and miss live

If I was in the area i’d go see him but i’d want a backup plan nearby so I could bail  out.

Seen him at Primavera '17 and Warehouse Project '19, and whilst he was good at Primavera, the performance at WHP was significantly better in my opinion. I've got tickets for Field Day as it's going to be a big day out for my friendship group from uni, sure he smashes it out of the park.

34 minutes ago, BambooShanks said:

would much rather him play iicon or Arcadia than headline a mainstage

I really cannot see Richard working all that well on Arcadia if it's the spider again. A significant part of what makes Richard's current performances so interesting, and fun, is the interaction between the set and the crowd visually. Would much rather he perform on IICON out of all the stages tbh, the fields big enough if you've got a solid draw elsewhere, say Chems or Fred x Skrillex x Four Tet on Arcadia.

Please project my distorted face onto IICONS big head 🙂

Edited February 8, 2023 by listenstolotsofcrap

[Breeze]

3 hours ago, listenstolotsofcrap said:

Would much rather he perform on IICON out of all the stages tbh, the fields big enough if you've got a solid draw elsewhere, say Chems or Fred x Skrillex x Four Tet on Arcadia.

This x1000. Would be incredible. Would be in the SEC like a shot despite either of those clashes, but most of the folks I'm going with would go to Arcadia (which supports the idea that the draw would be sufficient). 

[Madyaker]

Yeah I don't think Arcadia would be good for his show either, id much rather IICON or West Holts, preferably the later.

[theciderviking]

https://crackmagazine.net/article/profiles/salamanda-natural-wonder/
 

Probably really late to the party on this one (I usually am 🙈) but just stumbled across Salamanda- beautifully melodic electronic sounds, properly chilled out stuff that you can lose yourself in. Playing White Hotel in Manchester/Salford at the end of March, should be a great gig. 

[Quark]

On 2/7/2023 at 9:51 AM, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Yeah, love this. Thanks for sharing, that'll be the soundtrack for this morning.

This has prompted my yearly request for an evening curated by the likes of Anjunadeep or Afterlife. Yotto, ToU, Bohmer, Luttrell, Marsh, Wisternoff, etc. Some deep, hypnotic, melodic techno among the trees would be amazing.

One of my periodic clumsy stumblings into the most welcoming of threads to voice a +1 for some Anjunadeep.  Always like the bits I've heard coming from them but this prompted me to dig out some of their playlists and I would be massively there for it.

See you in 3 months when I next wander in by mistake, looking for the bathrooms.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]