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I'm not sure even if James Hetfield's shot the occasional bear he is a worse offender than the vast majority of the human race, who for millennium have destroyed the earth's natural habitat, and by design or default devastated wildlife populations.

Much worse is the threat to endangered species by over-fishing, burning forests to plant crops, ivory poaching, man-made climate change, pollution, etc.And don't pretend we aren't all indirectly responsible, dear old England is a vastly man-made environment, it's just that nature was destroyed centuries ago as we 'developed' faster than much of the world, but we all 'enjoy' the luxuries and ease of life it brings us and our perspective can't easily relate to what our ancestors did. How many bears died in our country due to bear baiting? (Only prohibited in 1835, and I think still goes on in Pakistan?).

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James Hetfield, a nine Grammy award winner, and lead vocalist for the heavy metal band Metallica, will be the narrator for the eight-episode series The Hunt a documentary on bear hunts on Kodiak Island.

Although Hetfield seems like an unlikely choice in the role as narrator for a hunting documentary, it actually suits him. The musician describes himself as an enthusiastic outdoorsman with a passion for hunting.

The Kodiak bear, also known as the Kodiak brown bear, or the Alaskan grizzly bear, occupies the islands of the Kodiak Archipelago in South-Western Alaska. They are the largest subspecies of brown bear and one of the two largest members of the bear family, the other being the polar bear.

Bear hunting enthusiasts are drawn to Alaskas Kodiak Island, because it is home to some of the worlds largest brown bears. The challenge of conquering and killing such powerful creatures brings these hunters pride in their accomplishments.

According to the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, hunters harvest about one hundred and eighty bears every year, with over seventy percent being males. They claim that by killing many of the males, they are controlling the bear population and are playing a vital role in preserving the ecological balance on the island.

It seems that the Alaska Department of Fish and Game does not think that nature can keep the ecological system in balance on its own, therefore, it is necessary to kill the fathers of baby cubs and use them for food and trophies.

While getting a bear is no easy task, most hunters still value time-honored traditions by hunting with bow-and-arrow, black powder single-shot rifles, and/or use the minimum amount of technology possible, History stated in its press release. Honoring the animal is paramount and taught to all hunters who come to the island. Hunters have an ethical and legal responsibility to strive for clean kills that is taken very seriously. There are pages of stringent regulations they must follow that ensure respect for the animal and the land.

If killing someone is honouring and respecting them, and destroying creatures that have as much right to freedom, justice and life as humans is considered humane and ethical, it is no wonder there is so much violence in this world.

Kodiak bears spend a lot less time and energy trying to capture and kill prey, than do their human adversaries. In fact, they avoid it as much as possible. The Alaska Department of Fish and Game explains in their fact sheet that Kodiak bears are often touted as the worlds largest land carnivore (meat eaters), they are really omnivores (using a variety of foods). They actually spend more time eating grass, plants and berries than meat. Fish are an important part of their diets, but few Kodiak bears expend the time or effort necessary to chase and kill mammals.

If anyone is interested in watching these magnificent bears being shot and killed by hunters, while cameras capture and exploit their deaths for entertainment, then you can watch the premiere of The Hunt on History on Sunday, June 8 at 10 p.m. WT/PT.

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James Hetfield, a nine Grammy award winner, and lead vocalist for the heavy metal band Metallica, will be the narrator for the eight-episode series “The Hunt” – a documentary on bear hunts on Kodiak Island.

Although Hetfield seems like an unlikely choice in the role as narrator for a hunting documentary, it actually suits him. The musician describes himself as an enthusiastic outdoorsman with a passion for hunting.

The Kodiak bear, also known as the Kodiak brown bear, or the Alaskan grizzly bear, occupies the islands of the Kodiak Archipelago in South-Western Alaska. They are the largest subspecies of brown bear and one of the two largest members of the bear family, the other being the polar bear.

Bear hunting enthusiasts are drawn to Alaska’s Kodiak Island, because it is home to some of the world’s largest brown bears. The challenge of conquering and killing such powerful creatures brings these hunters pride in their accomplishments.

According to the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, hunters harvest about one hundred and eighty bears every year, with over seventy percent being males. They claim that by killing many of the males, they are controlling the bear population and are playing a vital role in preserving the ecological balance on the island.

It seems that the Alaska Department of Fish and Game does not think that nature can keep the ecological system in balance on its own, therefore, it is necessary to kill the fathers of baby cubs and use them for food and trophies.

“While getting a bear is no easy task, most hunters still value time-honored traditions by hunting with bow-and-arrow, black powder single-shot rifles, and/or use the minimum amount of technology possible,” History stated in its press release. “Honoring the animal is paramount and taught to all hunters who come to the island. Hunters have an ethical and legal responsibility to strive for clean kills that is taken very seriously. There are pages of stringent regulations they must follow that ensure respect for the animal and the land.”

If killing someone is honouring and respecting them, and destroying creatures that have as much right to freedom, justice and life as humans is considered humane and ethical, it is no wonder there is so much violence in this world.

Kodiak bears spend a lot less time and energy trying to capture and kill prey, than do their human adversaries. In fact, they avoid it as much as possible. The Alaska Department of Fish and Game explains in their fact sheet that “Kodiak bears are often touted as the world’s largest land carnivore (meat eaters), they are really omnivores (using a variety of foods). They actually spend more time eating grass, plants and berries than meat. Fish are an important part of their diets, but few Kodiak bears expend the time or effort necessary to chase and kill mammals.”

If anyone is interested in watching these magnificent bears being shot and killed by hunters, while cameras capture and exploit their deaths for entertainment, then you can watch the premiere of “The Hunt” on History on Sunday, June 8 at 10 p.m. WT/PT.

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We used to fish for food and survival, not to take fishy selfies and throw them back - that's very recent indeed

We could throw the topic of the 150000 deer that need culling in the UK in here

The animal nuts love them, but they're destroying the lower woodland growth that feeds thousands of other species and causing massive amounts of damage to ecosystems - so what do you do?

Eat venison....

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Your scenario I have no gripe with - as long as it's not overfishing - but fishing for fun as opposed to food I have issues with.

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yes, we really must stop the millions of people around the world who love fishing having their fun mustn't we?! Fishing is something we have always done; moaning about it is something we have done for about 30 years.

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We used to fish for food and survival, not to take fishy selfies and throw them back - that's very recent indeed

We could throw the topic of the 150000 deer that need culling in the UK in here

The animal nuts love them, but they're destroying the lower woodland growth that feeds thousands of other species and causing massive amounts of damage to ecosystems - so what do you do?

Eat venison....

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in years to come fishing will be viewed in the same way as bear baiting, dog fighting etc. Humanity will become more enlightened as time goes by.

"Fishing is something we have always done". What a pathetic argument.

Slavery was something we had "always done" too.

Dont worry, evolution will remove slow-witted, backwards people like you from the gene pool over time.

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why do they need culling though? because we have slaughtered all the predators that used to control their numbers, or destroyed their habitat.

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I'm not sure even if James Hetfield's shot the occasional bear he is a worse offender than the vast majority of the human race, who for millennium have destroyed the earth's natural habitat, and by design or default devastated wildlife populations.

Much worse is the threat to endangered species by over-fishing, burning forests to plant crops, ivory poaching, man-made climate change, pollution, etc.And don't pretend we aren't all indirectly responsible, dear old England is a vastly man-made environment, it's just that nature was destroyed centuries ago as we 'developed' faster than much of the world, but we all 'enjoy' the luxuries and ease of life it brings us and our perspective can't easily relate to what our ancestors did. How many bears died in our country due to bear baiting? (Only prohibited in 1835, and I think still goes on in Pakistan?).

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in years to come fishing will be viewed in the same way as bear baiting, dog fighting etc. Humanity will become more enlightened as time goes by.

"Fishing is something we have always done". What a pathetic argument.

Slavery was something we had "always done" too.

Dont worry, evolution will remove slow-witted, backwards people like you from the gene pool over time.

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For me, it's not about the damage caused, in the modern world people are keen to change and be more eco-friendly when they're shown to. It's the act of going out with the sole intention of killing a creature, by the click of a trigger, because you feel like it. He's not culling a species that's become a threat to the local ecosystem (different debate entirely), it's a rich rock star murdering another being purely for enjoyment. It's the difference between ignorance and malice.

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The former mostly.

Wolves are bad right cos they're scary? lol

But it goes further than that. Yellowstone is the case in point - they tried reintroducing the predators after their grazers got out of control - but then the wolves ran amok.... final solution that worked? Reintroducing humans - getting a tribe of plains Indians to move in and do what they'd been doing for thousands of years, living with the land.

Humans have their place, don't let the vegans/PETA tell you otherwise

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Someone got butthurt over Metallica headlining, this is nothing new, people get butthurt all the time and post rubbish on the internet.

How many people are going to take class A drugs at Glastonbury this year? Should we protest against the thousands of people who are keeping the drug dealers in business at the festival? That's probably a more pressing issue, and would annoy loads more people!

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Mogwai are a better band than Metallica, no doubt. But I'm never comfortable when one band rubbishes another in the media because of their music, just doesn't feel like the classiest of things to do.

Someone got butthurt over Metallica headlining, this is nothing new, people get butthurt all the time and post rubbish on the internet.

How many people are going to take class A drugs at Glastonbury this year? Should we protest against the thousands of people who are keeping the drug dealers in business at the festival? That's probably a more pressing issue, and would annoy loads more people!

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Mogwai are a better band than Metallica, no doubt. But I'm never comfortable when one band rubbishes another in the media because of their music, just doesn't feel like the classiest of things to do.

You speak of an interesting political and social issue here, my good friend. Care to elaborate on your feelings towards the intricacies of drug sales? Do you not feel the government ought to be doing something towards legalising the less harmful drugs? If you feel strongly enough to protest about it, I will definitely hear your viewpoint on it and consider your thoughts as a respected equal. Or might you inform us how you came by the knowledge that this is "rubbish" concocted by somebody who is, as you put it, "butthurt" over Metallica headlining?

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