2025 Headliners

[JonSnow]

17 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

 

Not doubting their size. Eminem is huge obviously, revered by his fellow rappers, but I think there's a reason why he's often rumoured and never appears. Think the Eavii are unsure of his suitability as a headliner due to his lyrics and persona. Fred is an up-and-comer (and I think he'd personally be great) but there's not been a dance act as headliner for ages. It'd be a bit of a punt I think. Olivia Rodrigo is relatively big in the UK, but I don't think she's massive. Not to mention she'd be the most vanilla headliner since they nearly booked Taylor Swift. I just can't imagine them going with all three in one go. Maybe two from the three, but not all 3.

 

Most vanilla headliner since they booked Coldplay to headline 3 months ago*

[CaledonianGonzo]

If you discount the Boss and Sam Fender as likely bookings, O-Rod is the only likely rock headliner.

[Justcalledtosay]

2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

If you discount the Boss and Sam Fender as likely bookings, O-Rod is the only likely rock headliner.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Pretty much.  Her music is basically power pop.  It's a bit smoothed out and you wouldn't mistake it for something produced by Steve Albini but it's definitely redolent of acts like the Pixies, Breeders, The Attractions, a bit of Toro Amos, a bit of riot grrrl, etc.

 

https://www.nylon.com/entertainment/kathleen-hanna-on-olivia-rodrigo-riot-grrrl-influence

[Justcalledtosay]

I think it's a stretch to call her a rock act.

[gfa]

15 hours ago, Acid_Haze said:

I'm pretty sure when someone posted last year and said Little Simz would be subbing they were shouted down.

Same with when another person gave info about LCD Soundystem and PJ Harvey. We aren't great for it

Its hard to filter through stuff

 

Its funny the most ridiculous message i've seen for a while literally reading like AI and posted in bold is what's caused this conversation

 

12 hours ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

Tbh, the popularity of pop nostalgia like Sugababes and Craig David pulling crowds greater than actual legends of the game, Bewitched wouldn't surprise me if they pulled in 30k on a Saturday afternoon slot on Pyramid.

I'd go to be fair if at like 1pm - good fun with likely no major clash

 

12 hours ago, charlierc said:

Certainly, Jarvis Cocker himself said Pulp are planning on being around next year and the fact a few new songs are appearing in live shows of late hints they have been up to something.

 

But like you say, Pulp's last Glastonbury spot was a 2011 secret set and in 1998, 3 years on from their famed last-minute headline triumph, they were an outright bill-topper playing This is Hardcore in the pissing rain. So if the idea is to protect that 1995 show's legacy, surely that's already out the window.

Not ruling them out of wanting to play glasto until they call it tbh

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

drivers licence is basically Monkey Gone to Heaven with extra backing vocals.

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

5 minutes ago, Justcalledtosay said:

I think it's a stretch to call her a rock act.

 

More like a galactic time jump 

[CaledonianGonzo]

5 minutes ago, Justcalledtosay said:

I think it's a stretch to call her a rock act.

 

Not really

 

 

 

[Justcalledtosay]

Oh she has a bit of pop rock in her arsenal, i just don't think she's a rock act. I could never see her playing Download for example.

[glimmers_of_hope]

I think Olivia Rodrigo is rock. She is clearly influenced by 90's alt rock. 

It's through a modern pop filter but it is still rock.

[glimmers_of_hope]

Just now, Justcalledtosay said:

Oh she has a bit of pop rock in her arsenal, i just don't think she's a rock act. I could never see her playing Download for example.

Yeah that's true, but there is a whole load of indie / alt rock which wouldn't ever play download. She is more that vein I reckon. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

1 minute ago, Justcalledtosay said:

Oh she has a bit of pop rock in her arsenal, i just don't think she's a rock act. I could never see her playing Download for example.

 

Download is a heavy rock festival.   The Stones wouldn't play it either.

[Justcalledtosay]

I mean rock has a very broad spectrum of definition. You could probably place her in teeny bop, pop rock and soft rock. In terms of your "traditional" rock acts on the Pyramid, she doesn't fall into that category imo. She'd be billed as a pop act.

[Mardy]

Her performance with Lily Allen on the Other a few years ago was the most punk rock thing to happen on that stage in living memory. Way more subversive and confrontational than any amount of witless bellowing from Idles.

[CaledonianGonzo]

They don't really bill or categorise anyone by genre.  Agreed that rock is a broad church that can encompass a wide variety of styles, but this is neither teeny bop or soft rock.  The latter usually means things like Bread and The Carpenters.  

 

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

3 minutes ago, Mardy said:

Her performance with Lily Allen on the Other a few years ago was the most punk rock thing to happen on that stage in living memory. Way more subversive and confrontational than any amount of witless bellowing from Idles.

 

Two teeny boppers playing in the man's genre of real rock music 😞

[Justcalledtosay]

4 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

They don't really bill or categorise anyone by genre.  Agreed that rock is a broad church that can encompass a wide variety of styles, but this is neither teeny bop or soft rock.  The latter usually means things like Bread and The Carpenters.  

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_rock

 

Toto, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John.

Drivers License for example falls smack bang in the middle of that category.

 

I don't know what you mean by "they don't really bill or categorise anyone by genre."  Do you mean the festival? They may not advertise it but they certainly consider the balance of genres when curating their headliners line up. Rock clearly isn't a priority in that regard these days. I think they're just happy to have a variety of artists that can cover profile of the festival.

Edited September 10, 2024 by Justcalledtosay

[Mardy]

Definitions and parameters! The very er.. definition of rock and roll.

 

 

[Mardy]

'What music do I like? Good question. I suppose I'd have to say my favourite is categorisable music'

[CaledonianGonzo]

4 minutes ago, Justcalledtosay said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_rock

 

Toto, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John.

Drivers License for example falls smack bang in the middle of that category.

 

AC/DC and probably Slayer aside, rock acts quite often do ballads.

[Justcalledtosay]

Found this whilst i was out googling categories and what not. Thought it was fascinating.

 

https://musicmap.info/

[balti-pie]

2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

AC/DC and probably Slayer aside, rock acts quite often do ballads.

I'd argue that dead skin mask is as close as Slayer ever got to a ballad, and i love categorising it as such 

[MilkyJoe]

3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

AC/DC and probably Slayer aside, rock acts quite often do ballads.

You've never heard of the little known Slayer E.P 'My Cat's Fur is so Soft'?

[mph]

This might surprise you once you get past the intro

link here but google AC/DC Love Song, it might surprise you once you