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[mattiloy]

 

looking like starmer would rather be off with those troublesome unions, sticking up for workers rights, can't they see he's trying to turn labour into the party for the bosses of the workers?

 

next up, the 45th and final rebrand of the party under starmer:

the (owners of the companies in which) labour (works for substandard pay and conditions) party
                               

Edited February 9, 2022 by mattiloy

[Guest]

A majority of the public back calls for a windfall tax on energy firms, of course the government won’t do it because it would be money away from the big firms but good to see the public want it. 

[mattiloy]

Mouse Party Conference 2022 speech by new leader Sir Keir Squeeker:

so you see conference, aligning our manifesto policy with that of the cats and moving forward as one  - who incidentally have provided us with the nice donation of cheese for this weeks conference and we thank them for that - that is how we secure the best future for mice

*Luke Akehurst and his Progress / Mice To Win band of merry idiots - somehow less rodent-like in mouseform - squeeking wildly in the audience*

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, mattiloy said:

 

looking like starmer would rather be off with those troublesome unions, sticking up for workers rights, can't they see he's trying to turn labour into the party for the bosses of the workers?

 

next up, the 45th and final rebrand of the party under starmer:

the (owners of the companies in which) labour (works for substandard pay and conditions) party
                               

labour needs every penny it can get!

[Ryan1984]

8 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Van Tam is back doing his day job now.  I don't really care any more about what a limited subset of the scientific community think anymore.  Restrictions are as much about peoples feelings and politics as they are about medical issues and science.

Two years in if you still need Whitty to tell you what to think then you have probably been living in a box.  

While the majority of healthy,vaccinated people will be ‘fine’ now, I’d like to hear scientific and medical views on what this change means for the vulnerable and immunocompromised. They will have no choice but to mix with the masses as they return to work (it seems like the brave new world with changes and a more flexible attitude to working was one big lie) and try to live their lives safely etc.

Edited February 10, 2022 by Ryan1984

[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

[Crazyfool01]

20 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Has Boris sold her in the transfer market ? 

[steviewevie]

38 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

While the majority of healthy,vaccinated people will be ‘fine’ now, I’d like to hear scientific and medical views on what this change means for the vulnerable and immunocompromised. They will have no choice but to mix with the masses as they return to work (it seems like the brave new world with changes and a more flexible attitude to working was one big lie) and try to live their lives safely etc.

I expect a lot of people's behaviour will stay the same for a while longer...it's just nothing is enforced. We're not the only country lifting all restrictions. But, we wouldn't be doing this yet if Bojo wasn't in so much trouble...

[Ryan1984]

 

[Crazyfool01]

10 hours ago, Ryan1984 said:

Do you think we’ll get to hear what Whitty, Valance and Van Tam think about the “No need to isolate” rule?

 

No they’ve been absent for weeks now which kind of gives the impression they don’t agree 

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

 

Haha they really have no clue what they are doing. If it isn’t ‘vaccine’ then they have nothing. 

[Neil]

wtf are unite doing, trying to co-erse Labour into supporting them over a strike, its the sort of tactic to damage labour to lose the next election.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-60326688

Edited February 10, 2022 by Neil

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

We haven't had a press conference for them to be absent from ?

He can’t have anyone left that wants to stand next to him … I’m more trusting of the medical professionals than a wayward PM that’s trying to save his skin tbh 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

wtf are unite doing, trying to co-erse Labour into supporting them over a strike, its the sort of tactic to damage labour to lose the next election.

it's a tactic to try and get bin lorry drivers their wage demands from Coventry council...go to the top with threats. Starmer obviously wants to distant labour from all this, tories still use winter of discontent to batter labour...but at same time unite are biggest funder to labour and labour need the cash. Hopefully something can be sorted behind the scenes.

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I think there will be a final press conference after half term.  Hopefully you get the head the patting you need.

? 

[Neil]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

it's a tactic to try and get bin lorry drivers their wage demands from Coventry council...go to the top with threats. Starmer obviously wants to distant labour from all this, tories still use winter of discontent to batter labour...but at same time unite are biggest funder to labour and labour need the cash. Hopefully something can be sorted behind the scenes.

i know why they're doing it, but its the sort of action which destroyed labour support in the late 70s and early 80s  to enable thatcher.

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

You seem to want a press conference with a unicorn.

Or simply just confirmation from the medical people it’s the best way to go … which of course it isn’t as it’s to save the PMs skin …. Which you said a few pages back 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said:

Has Boris sold her in the transfer market ? 

no, as a tory, she was always team kremlin. also see spaffers £600,000 tennis match witgh the wife of a russian minister.

[squirrelarmy]

23 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

You seem to want a press conference with a unicorn.

Which is less mythical.

An honest Tory or a Unicorn?

[Cherry Tree]

27 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Which is less mythical.

An honest Tory or a Unicorn?

I once saw a unicorn, early one morning in the SE Corner, I know which I believe in.

[Simsy]

1 hour ago, Ryan1984 said:

 

We should write to him with all the fake EU regulations, like bendy bananas and all this shit https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/23/10-best-euro-myths-from-custard-creams-to-condoms

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

i know why they're doing it, but its the sort of action which destroyed labour support in the late 70s and early 80s  to enable thatcher.

It may well hurt labour councillors at local elections in a few months if bins not getting emptied....and it will hurt labour big time if Unite do go ahead and cut all funding.

[Crazyfool01]

 

[mcshed]

12 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

 

Not wanting to totally derail this thread and turn it into a COVID one so feel free to reply on the darkside. 

Whilst this decision has been rushed to try and help Boris this is the direction we are going in, so even without this naked act of self preservation in a couple of months we would be in a position where there is a background amount of COVID, through vaccines and exposure there is a good deal of protection, people like yourself who are more vulnerable will still be more vulnerable. Given this will be the case for years, what do you expect in terms of Government mandated protection?

Proper sick pay seems like a no brainer as it would help contain all sorts of bugs if unwell staff just stayed home. There is a constant battle to increase cleanliness standards in hospitals and more mask wearing and better ventilation may be added to the fight against hospital acquired infections. Yearly booster vaccines for the vulnerable? I really don't know the answers but the conversation has to move on from restrictions to what is permanently acceptable.