news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

22 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Johnson has apparently been calling round to his MPs saying it’s all just a media- and Labour-led Witch Hunt against him and how he’s survived far worse in the past. Imagine this - and the ‘everyone was breaking the rules’ anyway line from that MP - are their two lines to see them through.

they're also going to use a threat of a general election, and Ukraine.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

So now he lied about ordering the evacuation of dogs from Afghanistan .  An e mail has just appeared.  
It’s the Afghan hound scandal. 

but voters know he lies already...good old boris.

[Homer]

Not sure how this is going to het him around lying in parliament.

[Crazyfool01]

So report released after the newspaper round … or midnight ? 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

So report released after the newspaper round … or midnight ? 

after last orders.

[Crazyfool01]

Is he going to be lapping it up … or will he see his job going to the dogs …. Maybe Sue Gray will hound him out 

[Ayrshire Chris]

Doesn’t look like the report is coming out today, if not tomorrow then it’s next week as they all piss off on Thursday night.  Johnson is playing for time, allowing the whips and cabinet to bully , bluff and bribe the backbenchers to support him.  Cynical and corrupt.  

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Doesn’t look like the report is coming out today, if not tomorrow then it’s next week as they all piss off on Thursday night.  Johnson is playing for time, allowing the whips and cabinet to bully , bluff and bribe the backbenchers to support him.  Cynical and corrupt.  

He’s a coward.

[steviewevie]

19 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

He’s a coward.

He's not received the report has he?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

He's not received the report has he?

That’s what he says, but he’s a liar so who knows.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

That’s what he says, but he’s a liar so who knows.

I expect lawyers going over it now that police are involved.

[Crazyfool01]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

That’s what he says, but he’s a liar so who knows.

Sue Gray also says hes not received it ... 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I expect lawyers going over it now that police are involved.

The Met say it’s fine as the max they would dish out is fixed penalty notices. I reckon Johnson has seen the report and wants to redact parts of it hence the delay. 

[Gingerfish79]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

The Met say it’s fine as the max they would dish out is fixed penalty notices. I reckon Johnson has seen the report and wants to redact parts of it hence the delay. 

I think they're just playing PR spin games. They'll try to drop it after 8pm.

[squirrelarmy]

Other than doing the honourable thing and resigning if it is proved that he did lie to Parliament what is the actual legal penalty for it?

We know he doesn’t have any honour but can he legally be removed if the lies are proved to be true. 

We all know he did lie but it’s the proof that matters.

 

[Zoo Music Girl]

This day is turning out to be as disappointing as I feared.

[squirrelarmy]

10 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I think its a tradition / expectation (its a code not a rule / law)...  I don't think its can be forced or automatic other than VONC.
 

Doing a little research on it now. He can be found in contempt of Parliament. Normally members who are guilty of it offer their resignation. 
 

The last time a MP didn’t resign for that charge was over 350 years ago and he was locked up in the tower. That’s the bell tower of Westminster. 
 

I’m half hoping Spaffer digs his heels in and gets dragged off to the tower in disgrace. 

[Neil]

9 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

 found in contempt of Parliament.

that happened to cummings, nothing happened.

 

 

Edited January 26, 2022 by Neil

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, Gingerfish79 said:

I think they're just playing PR spin games. They'll try to drop it after 8pm.

That’s partly what I fear, it’ll be dropped at a suitable time to ensure Johnson gets as easy ride as possible. 

[squirrelarmy]

6 minutes ago, Neil said:

that happened to cummings, nothing happened.

 

 

Cummings wasn’t a member of Parliament so different rules applied to him. 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

That’s partly what I fear, it’ll be dropped at a suitable time to ensure Johnson gets as easy ride as possible. 

well...maybe....but that is not what press are saying...they're saying that Gray has not released to no.10 yet, maybe because a lot has to be checked...think we're just going to have to be patient.

[Ayrshire Chris]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

well...maybe....but that is not what press are saying...they're saying that Gray has not released to no.10 yet, maybe because a lot has to be checked...think we're just going to have to be patient.

Buying himself time to get his allies  to bully, intimidate and blackmail the back benchers who are thinking of putting in letters of no confidence. He is without principles and will do anything to hang on to power. 

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Buying himself time to get his allies  to bully, intimidate and blackmail the back benchers who are thinking of putting in letters of no confidence. He is without principles and will do anything to hang on to power. 

if he was really buying himself time we wouldn't be getting the report until after the police investigation is complete...

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Buying himself time to get his allies  to bully, intimidate and blackmail the back benchers who are thinking of putting in letters of no confidence. He is without principles and will do anything to hang on to power. 

which will mean there is something in there thats not great for him ( obviously ) and thats the info the MET will get .... its not good either way for Boris ... the public have seen through him now ...

[steviewevie]

darling of the left and next labour leader...