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[steviewevie]

Is Starmer still self isolating?

[MrHew]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Is Starmer still self isolating?

If he gets a negative lateral flow today he can come out to play

[Guest]

Johnson rarely apologises let alone offering a sincere one but he’ll get away with it because that’s what happens. Although if he apologises he essentially admits he lied to the Commons…

 

How come other people had to resign over this but precious Johnson can keep his job?

Edited January 12, 2022 by Ozanne

[steviewevie]

43 minutes ago, Memory Man said:

If he had just accepted and admitted it and apologised but not resigned it would almost be out of the news cycle by now. 

its bad they had the party but not just admitting & apologising for it has made it 20x worse.

at the end of the day in comparison to what you can do today 30 people outside is hardly egregious (it was more so back then of course) but i think its the denial and bluster thats worse than the actions themselves

yeah, definitely...his lies and denials have been found out. There was a story about a party in dept of education when Williamson was there which broke covid rules...and they just admitted it, apologised etc...and story quickly moved on (although to be fair there were stories about parties in downing st coming out at same time)

[zahidf]

28 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

This is how it will probably play out.  He will say I am very sorry for being a c**t and see if he can ride it out.  

Tories won't want him to go right now if it can be avoided with a messy public enquiry on covid inbound is my thinking.  But if he can't recover they will knife him 

Problem is that he lied to parliament about not going to a party. If he admits that, he cant survive

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Problem is that he lied to parliament about not going to a party. If he admits that, he cant survive

does it matter what party he lied about?

[steviewevie]

Going to miss today's PMQs...bummer.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

does it matter what party he lied about?

No, because he said he wasn’t aware of any party and thus lied to Parliament.

Starmer will be at PMQs today apparently. 

[squirrelarmy]

20 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

No, because he said he wasn’t aware of any party and thus lied to Parliament.

Starmer will be at PMQs today apparently. 

Open and shut case. 
 

Time to see what the Prosecution does about it

[chazwwe]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

Problem is that he lied to parliament about not going to a party. If he admits that, he cant survive

I think most of the time he was in reference to the ones over Christmas. He always denied him attending the Christmas ones but never said nothing about the May one and that's because he was there and there's probably proof that he's aware of. The big question will be if there's proof he knew the Christmas parties were happening. If this comes out, then he'd be lying to parliament. 

[Lycra]

25 minutes ago, chazwwe said:

I think most of the time he was in reference to the ones over Christmas. He always denied him attending the Christmas ones but never said nothing about the May one and that's because he was there and there's probably proof that he's aware of. The big question will be if there's proof he knew the Christmas parties were happening. If this comes out, then he'd be lying to parliament. 

Whether you link the May to the Christmas parties or not his attendance a one shows he knew these events were happening, hence he's caught lying. He must be bricking himself now Starmer's back!

The Tories know Boris is living on borrowed time. The question  for them is when the heirs apparent wish to put the knife in. They will want to ride on the winds of the successful vaccination program but be fearful of headwinds of bad news coming this spring.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Lycra

[Ryan1984]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

Johnson rarely apologises let alone offering a sincere one but he’ll get away with it because that’s what happens. Although if he apologises he essentially admits he lied to the Commons…

 

How come other people had to resign over this but precious Johnson can keep his job?

Weirdest one is that Allegra resigned over joking about a party but no one who attended or hosted the gatherings has done anything?

[chazwwe]

 

I wonder if this is how they're gonna spin it. Boris said he wouldn't go to the party, but it was in his back garden so how could he not be there?

[steviewevie]

Will Boris survive the day?

BET NOW!

[Zoo Music Girl]

12 minutes ago, Lycra said:

Whether you link the May to the Christmas parties or not his attendance a one shows he knew these events were happening, hence he's caught lying. He must be bricking himself now Starmer's back!

The Tories know Boris is living on borrowed time. The question  for them is when the heirs apparent wish to put the knife in. They will want to ride on the winds of the successful vaccination program but be fearful of headwinds of bad news coming this spring.

I'm guessing that whoever is next in line is likely shitting themselves about what Cummings has on them, though. There's probably things most of the Cabinet have done at this rate. It would be hard to position yourself in opposition to Boris if you'd been shown to do the same.

Excited for PMQs anyway, even though it will inevitably be disappointing.

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Will Boris survive the day?

BET NOW!

of course he will (survive).

a man with no shame isn't going to be shamed into quitting.

[steviewevie]

 

[Zoo Music Girl]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Will Boris survive the day?

BET NOW!

Sadly I think he will.

[chazwwe]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

 

I wonder how many on the back bench will turn up. 

[Jakeyboi135]

5 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

I'm guessing that whoever is next in line is likely shitting themselves about what Cummings has on them, though. There's probably things most of the Cabinet have done at this rate. It would be hard to position yourself in opposition to Boris if you'd been shown to do the same.

Excited for PMQs anyway, even though it will inevitably be disappointing.

Does seem a bit odd that Cummings tried to bring Johnson down by blogging comments he allegedly made, but never mentioned the many blatant breaches of restrictions.

[blutarsky]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Even the toadiest toadie Saline Sacksby is distancing herself from Johnson. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

8 minutes ago, Jakeyboi135 said:

Does seem a bit odd that Cummings tried to bring Johnson down by blogging comments he allegedly made, but never mentioned the many blatant breaches of restrictions.

Feels like he was biding his time for some reason? 

[steviewevie]

16 minutes ago, chazwwe said:

I wonder how many on the back bench will turn up. 

Will just be Boris and that Harry Enfield in a wig bloke.

[incident]

8 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Feels like he was biding his time for some reason? 

Yeah, even when he was releasing information last year, it was clear that he was drip feeding it for his own purposes, and so it's not at all surprising he kept back a bombshell or two.

[Lycra]

10 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Feels like he was biding his time for some reason? 

Revenge is sweeter when tasted cold 😁