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When will this shit end?


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6 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Well I'm back to complaining about infection rates and Tiers.

You enjoy yourself - it is still Christmas after all.

(I went for a bike ride in the sun yesterday morning - but secretly I was still thinking about Brexit.)

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13 minutes ago, Homer said:

Has the Xmas Day ceasefire ended yet? Am spoiling for an argument here.

COVID lost the Christmas Day football match so it’s out for payback. 

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57 minutes ago, dotdash79 said:

Is that in the app? Or via text?

if it’s text it should have a date to end the self isolation. Chances are one of your contacts has now tested positive. 
 

we had this when we all tested positive in the house, my wife ended up with 4 dates to isolate to. 

In the app.  My only contacts who have tested positive are the 3 in my house (well 1 of and the other 2 just isolated with us).  Weird, and if I’m honest I’m not isolating again for another 10 days (not that I’m doing a lot but the dog has already been through weeks of no walks). 

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Journalists and experts pouring over the trade deal today, looking for bad stuff...but the bigger picture is this is a win for Bojo, and you have to give it to the twat, he does keep winning. He won london mayoral election twice in a labour city, he backed the winning side in the referendum, he became PM in the end, won a big majority for the tories and got brexit done and then did complete a trade deal with the EU within a year and delivered a hard brexit. Kind of impressive, the cockhead.

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7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Journalists and experts pouring over the trade deal today, looking for bad stuff...but the bigger picture is this is a win for Bojo, and you have to give it to the twat, he does keep winning. He won london mayoral election twice in a labour city, he backed the winning side in the referendum, he became PM in the end, won a big majority for the tories and got brexit done and then did complete a trade deal with the EU within a year and delivered a hard brexit. Kind of impressive, the cockhead.

People love it. Did anyone watch the 30 years of Have I Got News on Xmas Eve? Was a v good watch generally - and also confirmed my memory that the joke was very much on him back then. Not sure how it has become that some people now think he is hilarious (let alone that that is a great qualification for the job).

Sod it, I'll dig a link out - it is Xmas after all!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000qq61

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2 minutes ago, Homer said:

People love it. Did anyone watch the 30 years of Have I Got News on Xmas Eve? Was a v good watch generally - and also confirmed my memory that the joke was very much on him back then. Not sure how it has become that some people now think he is hilarious (let alone that that is a great qualification for the job).

Sod it, I'll dig a link out - it is Xmas after all!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000qq61

yeah, watched that, was interesting....and made me feel old.

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16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Journalists and experts pouring over the trade deal today, looking for bad stuff...but the bigger picture is this is a win for Bojo, and you have to give it to the twat, he does keep winning. He won london mayoral election twice in a labour city, he backed the winning side in the referendum, he became PM in the end, won a big majority for the tories and got brexit done and then did complete a trade deal with the EU within a year and delivered a hard brexit. Kind of impressive, the cockhead.

The fact that people can actually be impressed by him managing a deal against all odds when twelve months ago they were saying the deal was already done is a level of cognitive dissonance I can’t get my head around.

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4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

But if we do, we effectively hit ourselves with sanctions, don't we?

has something called a rebalancing clause, where can review standards etc at any time...and then whatever comes from that, they could agree on something, or not and could be tarrifs applied. Something like that.

Basically we're going to be negotiating stuff in the background forever.

Plus, this deal doesn't even include services, so that needs sorting out.

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Just now, xxialac said:

They're not very good at this propaganda lark are they?

I think they’ve realised that they can put out/shall do whatever they want and it’ll barely make any difference sadly. 

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