When will this shit end?

[Cherry Tree]

The Cain resignation quite far down on BBC news, do people think they will have their act together for newsnight. 

Edited November 11, 2020 by Cherry Tree

[Fuzzy Afro]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I know a few people who it's really backfired on.

I mean most of them had recruitment agents on speed dial, it’s not a big deal really.

[stuartbert two hats]

6 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

What line of work are you in, out of interest? At pretty much every business I’ve ever worked at people regularly use resignation threats to leverage pay rises, promotions, more interesting tasks etc. It’s very normal. 

And then don't go.

[mattiloy]

12 minutes ago, Cherry Tree said:

The one thing that Boris has is good political antenna, I wonder if he is seeing the the wind of change from over the Atlantic and realises that he needs a deal with Europe, to achieve this he needs to cut adrift a few people who will block him achieving this. Rumour is that Frost is also unhappy with events.

Yes, you might well be onto something there, smart!

[Ozanne]

1 minute ago, mikegday said:

Does anyone think Cain and Cummings will leave and go back to Gove, who will try and challenge Boris once he has revealed the EU deal.

I’ve said for a while now that Gove will be the next PM so I think this could be a possibility.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I mean most of them had recruitment agents on speed dial, it’s not a big deal really.

it is if you don't really want to leave...but are just being a bit greedy.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Ozanne said:

I’ve said for a while now that Gove will be the next PM so I think this could be a possibility.

£10 bet Gove will never be PM.

[stuartbert two hats]

Although resignation dynamics are a bit different in politics, I must admit.

[Ozanne]

Just now, steviewevie said:

£10 bet Gove will never be PM.

You’re on pal.

[mattiloy]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I’ve said for a while now that Gove will be the next PM so I think this could be a possibility.

You’ve been wrong so far and are likely to continue along that path in perpetuity.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Ozanne said:

You’re on pal.

Ok.

Actually, I still haven't paid the last bet I lost.

[Cherry Tree]

It will be interesting, Gove will only ever be PM in a coup, he will never win a General Election. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

it is if you don't really want to leave...but are just being a bit greedy.

Usually you DO want to leave though. Whether that be an internal move or out the door. 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Cherry Tree said:

It will be interesting, Gove will only ever be PM in a coup, he will never win a General Election. 

Cummings is so unpopular with backbench MPs and tory members....if teamed up with Gove they wouldn't stand a chance.

[Mr.Tease]

6 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

What line of work are you in, out of interest? At pretty much every business I’ve ever worked at people regularly use resignation threats to leverage pay rises, promotions, more interesting tasks etc. It’s very normal. 

That's what I'm saying, if he was going to resign out of principle he would have probably done it with no warning, by threatening to first, he's open to being placated. 

I don't think I've ever been considered indispensable, so I don't think it would work if I threatened to resign, so I've never tried it! 😂 I've quit before a few times, most recently a few years ago due to ethics (knew they weren't going to change the policy, and didn't want to be talked into accepting it so just handed in my notice as undramatically as I could!) 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Usually you DO want to leave though. Whether that be an internal move or out the door. 

well, people I knew just wanted a big payrise. One in particular was gutted.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

well, people I knew just wanted a big payrise. One in particular was gutted.

The trick usually is to look around and get a solid offer from a competitor and then ask your employer to match it. 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Mr.Tease said:

That's what I'm saying, if he was going to resign out of principle he would have probably done it with no warning, by threatening to first, he's open to being placated. 

I don't think I've ever been considered indispensable, so I don't think it would work if I threatened to resign, so I've never tried it! 😂 I've quit before a few times, most recently a few years ago due to ethics (knew they weren't going to change the policy, and didn't want to be talked into accepting it so just handed in my notice as undramatically as I could!) 

I don't think Johnson would want to keep Cummings on for much longer anyway...as has been suggested on here. Brexit will be finished soon, and still too much unhappiness over Cummings and his Barnard castle thing...and govt operation has been so shit this year maybe Cummings isn't the genius he and other think he is.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

The trick usually is to look around and get a solid offer from a competitor and then ask your employer to match it. 

Yeah, and employer says no...off you go.

[steviewevie]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Yeah, and employer says no...off you go.

I mean...if I tried it I'm sure my employer would give me whatever I demanded for me to stay as I am shit hot.

[Ozanne]

5 minutes ago, Cherry Tree said:

It will be interesting, Gove will only ever be PM in a coup, he will never win a General Election. 

Yeah pretty much. I don’t think he’d appeal to the wider public. Boris was able to do something that no Tory leader had done in decades by winning a large majority so I’m not sure there’s anyone else that can do that currently. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Yeah, and employer says no...off you go.

And then your employer is fucked and you’re making more cash at a rival firm. Win win. 

[mattiloy]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Cummings is so unpopular with backbench MPs and tory members....if teamed up with Gove they wouldn't stand a chance.

Yes yes, sunak or patel are probably the bookies favourites in the event of a vote of no confidence. Gove would be fairly far down the pack.
 

Gove and cummings will always be outsiders/loners because in the end politics is a personality contest and they are just not likeable. They’re odd and awkward and will only get a sniff at power by latching onto a popular buffoon like Johnson. Once that’s done, they’re done.

[Cherry Tree]

Maybe Tesco demanded Cain resigned, after Boris was shown answering questions about 50k deaths whilst dressed in a Tesco Hi-viz.

[efcfanwirral]

One last leak to try to get the cult members up in arms