Wooderson Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, thetime said: What a strange response to a reasoned discussion about your opinions on spending couple of weeks ago. It’s not Reds fans that have their knickers all bunched up over this. At no point during this “reasoned” debate did I say LFC should maintain current tack of expecting to challenge whilst spending no money. We’ll sell Phil in a couple weeks anyway and then your fantabulous spending totals will be back in line. Btw for the snidiest poster on the forum to clutch their pearls so tightly has me in tears of laughter. Edited December 30, 2017 by Wooderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: In my opinion yes. You get the exceptions who just get better and better. Any players in particular you're basing this opinion on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Wooderson said: Btw for the snidiest poster on the forum to clutch their pearls so tightly has me in tears of laughter. I wondered when snide would make an appearance. Like City I’m not bothered what Liverpool spend, more interested in Utd blowing 600m last few years. what’s more interesting is your argument about doping’ and not addressing that issue now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheGayTent said: Any players in particular you're basing this opinion on? Nobody particularly comes to mind, but then again most are forgotten as they drift down the pyramid. So do you disagree and think the best young players only progress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: Nobody particularly comes to mind, but then again most are forgotten as they drift down the pyramid. So do you disagree and think the best young players only progress? I don't think there are any hard and fast rules. Players progress (or don't) at different rates. That's why some players make their top flight debut at 16, some at 21, and some at 26. Some go on to have 15 year top flight careers, some disappear without trace after a couple of substitute appearances. Statements like "Young players....often follow a good first season with a poor second one" strikes me as the type of lazy journalism I'd expect to find in the Mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 28 minutes ago, TheGayTent said: I don't think there are any hard and fast rules. Players progress (or don't) at different rates. I agree, but I think the bigger club only allow for the constant progression model when it comes to their own young talent. In terms of the factors you mentioned, I also think luck plays a role and being at the right club at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: I agree, but I think the bigger club only allow for the constant progression model when it comes to their own young talent. In terms of the factors you mentioned, I also think luck plays a role and being at the right club at the right time. There's no room for sentiment in a multi billion pound industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, thetime said: I wondered when snide would make an appearance. Like City I’m not bothered what Liverpool spend, more interested in Utd blowing 600m last few years. what’s more interesting is your argument about doping’ and not addressing that issue now. Mate I’m sure you’re a lovely fella in reality. As for financially doping, LFC sell all their best players. For vast sums of cash. Next question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Breaking into the 1st team from the academy at any big club is incredibly difficult. If you don't make an instant impact, fans say you're not up to standard. Make a few mistakes and they're baying for you to dropped. You've got to basically be good enough to displace an established £30m - £40m player at the age of 18. Very few can do that and end up going out on loan, never being seen again or are flogged off to smaller clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Gnomicide said: Breaking into the 1st team from the academy at any big club is incredibly difficult. If you don't make an instant impact, fans say you're not up to standard. Make a few mistakes and they're baying for you to dropped. Who knew big clubs have a high percentage of thick fickle c**ts that follow them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I’d say the ratio is pretty static regardless of club size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I wasnt having pop at LFC. Just pointing out Klopps hypocritical statements. Mourinho does it to. Him moaning about money is madness. Pep too. Easier to play "The Barca way in the premier league" with a blank chequebook. They all talk BS at times. Fergie did too. Cant really argue with signing new players at LFC given Salah this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Salah to Madrid 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Nal Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, Wooderson said: Salah to Madrid 2019. Summer 2018. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 How long is Maureen gonna last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Jose blames the ref! Zlat is out for a month. Lukaku prob the same. Can rashford tow the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, zahidf said: Jose blames the ref! Zlat is out for a month. Lukaku prob the same. Can rashford tow the line? Jose blames everyone but Jose, pretty much the same for the majority of fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, thetime said: Jose blames everyone but Jose, pretty much the same for the majority of fans. i think a lot of Man utd fans are running out of patience...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, zahidf said: i think a lot of Man utd fans are running out of patience...... Rodgers to the rescue lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomThomDrum Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 I see Nike are pushing their agenda and making LFC fans 'very happy' in the process. Phil's imminent departure looking even more likely..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 16 hours ago, Wooderson said: How long is Maureen gonna last? Until that top 4 carrot is distinguished I’d imagine(moyes and lvg). Finishing 6th, outside top 4 and spending 300m he has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Extinguished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Wooderson said: Extinguished? Haha yeah that’s what you get with predictive and not bothering to look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, thetime said: Until that top 4 carrot is distinguished I’d imagine(moyes and lvg). Finishing 6th, outside top 4 and spending 300m he has to go. No way he gets a contract extension unless he wins the champs or premiere league. Id say anything less than 2nd, he goes to PSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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