Michael eavis 'in talks with longleat'

[chestwig]

8 hours ago, Jamie D said:

 

I suppose having at Longleat on the fallow year and having it as an official backup venue would be the ultimate message to the landowners surrounding Worthy Farm - "we've proven we can do it somewhere else and we can do it again. Now play nicely"

This. I think there sending a message for now.

if ME passes everything over to em though I expect she would want the festival permanently moved. Hasn't she said she doesn't like it in her back garden before?

[Peroni]

2 hours ago, chestwig said:

Hasn't she said she doesn't like it in her back garden before?

Yeah when she was about 6 

[Pinhead]

Regarding the 'warning shot across the bough' theory for the proposals - remember its not just about landowners and their rents and other operations during the festival that is putting pressure on the continuity of using the site. Its also because some of the landowners have agricultural expansion plans of their own which the festival increasingly infringes upon.

Longleat is a reasonable idea for a location, however its what it is shared with that will be the clincher for me - the Safari Park and other tourist operations around the estate will no doubt want to be reassured that the festival will not impact upon their operations.

[Woz101]

Will be interesting to see how Center Parcs cope with this - their site is right next to Longleat - I suspect it would have a huge impact on them.

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, Woz101 said:

Will be interesting to see how Center Parcs cope with this - their site is right next to Longleat - I suspect it would have a huge impact on them.

Perhaps in a positive way.  I'm sure the value of their accommodation will shoot up the weekend of the festival.

[eFestivals]

6 minutes ago, Woz101 said:

Will be interesting to see how Center Parcs cope with this - their site is right next to Longleat - I suspect it would have a huge impact on them.

not so much, I'd say.

Working on the idea that change-over day is Saturday, there won't be much festival traffic to interfere with it.

[Woz101]

Definitely a tricky one - I've been to the Longleat Center Parcs a lot in my time and it's totally designed as an enclosed environment with a single entrance for visitors and only foot or cycle traffic on site. During the Changeover Days (when new people arrive and people leave) it has to be carefully managed and orchestrated to allow anything to flow. 

I'm not sure how they would cope with a significant number of people leaving site each day and then wanting to re-enter at night (particularly late).

[Woz101]

8 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

not so much, I'd say.

Working on the idea that change-over day is Saturday, there won't be much festival traffic to interfere with it.

Change Over days are Friday and Monday 

[marcoolio]

It's starting to sound a lot like Best Kept Secret in the Netherlands, which is also located on a terrain encompassing both a safari park and a holiday village. I believe the bungalows there are reserved for the festival during that weekend, and can only be rented by those who have a festival ticket. The bungalows are offered as an alternative to camping on site, comparable to the Worthy View options at Glastonbury.

Where The Wild Things Are, also in the Netherlands, takes place at a Center Parcs village. There the holiday village *is* the festival; you can only get tickets by booking a bungalow.

So I imagine the Longleat festival would also be working with Center Parcs to offer accommodations for festival goers. Depending on the size of the festival and the size of the holiday village, it may be taken over by the festival completely for that weekend.

[Ohinever]

Actually also worth mentioning that the Thynn's own vast tracts of Somerset all the way to Wookey Hole and beyond. So potentially the festival could be on Longleat ground,  but not at Longleat,  per se. 

[chestwig]

6 hours ago, Peroni said:

Yeah when she was about 6 

Is this some kind of a child rape joke?

Wow..... just wow!

[stuartbert two hats]

7 minutes ago, chestwig said:

Is this some kind of a child rape joke?

Wow..... just wow!

No.

[Bradders]

38 minutes ago, chestwig said:

Is this some kind of a child rape joke?

Wow..... just wow!

Why the fuck would you think that?

[Peroni]

No. But a bit random you'd automatically go there

[Jamie D]

BBC News now have an article about this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36432998

Followed by an article about a boy destroying a £10,000 Lego model:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-36426608

 

[sime]

Be interesting to see what happens with the tickets. I'm going to try to get one. My guess is they will be snapped up due to the Glastonbury connection and of-course, no Glastonbury that year but maybe people will be a bit wary of it!? No, they'll sell out uber quick won't they!?

[eFestivals]

7 minutes ago, sime said:

Be interesting to see what happens with the tickets. I'm going to try to get one. My guess is they will be snapped up due to the Glastonbury connection and of-course, no Glastonbury that year but maybe people will be a bit wary of it!? No, they'll sell out uber quick won't they!?

yeah, pretty sure it'll be an instant sell-out.

That might be a bit of a problem for it over the longer term, because it might not be as popular the next year after people have been and checked it out and (perhaps) decided it's not Glastonbury so they won't bother again. Then again I suspect it'll be done well enough for people to go back.

[sime]

7 hours ago, eFestivals said:

yeah, pretty sure it'll be an instant sell-out.

That might be a bit of a problem for it over the longer term, because it might not be as popular the next year after people have been and checked it out and (perhaps) decided it's not Glastonbury so they won't bother again. Then again I suspect it'll be done well enough for people to go back.

I'm very curious about it. I've been to every Glastonbury since 1993. I love it from beginning to end so the thought of a new festival being run by the same people has definitely got my interest. 

[priest17]

Can they not go some where slightly more north if they're moving? There's loads of space I promise...

[Sawdusty surfer]

There is one giant problem with all the Longleat possibilities. That problem is Wiltshire. The chances of an event with the freedom of Glastonbury happening in Wiltshire i would say are rather slim.

 There is an enormous back story of problems there ranging from The Beanfield (31 years ago yesterday) to the BGG at Pertwood.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Too incapaciated to read the whole thread, but surely they'd be an argument for telling adjacent landowners who GFL have to pay not to be so extortionate in their demands - a serious shot across the boughs kind of thing. I get the impression that the Eavises's would go for it too. Let's face it - they throw the best party in town, and I think, could do that anywhere.

[mrfunk]

7 hours ago, Sawdusty Surfer said:

There is one giant problem with all the Longleat possibilities. That problem is Wiltshire. The chances of an event with the freedom of Glastonbury happening in Wiltshire i would say are rather slim.

 There is an enormous back story of problems there ranging from The Beanfield (31 years ago yesterday) to the BGG at Pertwood.

Completely agree.. went to Sunrise Festival, when it was down in Wiltshire on an old golf course, dogs on gate and very heavy handed police presence.. killed the vibe big time.

[eFestivals]

2 hours ago, mrfunk said:

Completely agree.. went to Sunrise Festival, when it was down in Wiltshire on an old golf course, dogs on gate and very heavy handed police presence.. killed the vibe big time.

yup, wiltshire doesn't really do festivals, and there's a reason why.

 Having said that, Womad has been Wilts-based for a number of years now, and while the old bill have been over-the-top at times with it, it's not a horror show.

I suspect this a GF-run fest at Longleat will get an even greater amount of 'police respect'. Glastonbury is no longer the great unwashed, but is solidly establishment - and is happening on land owned by the 'proper' establishment.

I'd say the bigger problem will be around what licensing will allow, and how that will impact into what the festival is able to do. Sat where I am I've of course thought about the idea of doing a festival myself in the past, but when I thought it thru I quickly realised that whatever idea I started with just wasn't going to be possible because it would have to bend to that licensing and what could be delivered would be a long way from what I'd want.

[parsonjack]

There's been plenty of discussion locally over the manner in which Viscount Weymouth has increased visitor costs to his back garden since taking the reins and alienating a lot of local people, and it's clear he is far more financially minded than his Father so he obviously eyes the festival opportunity as a giant cash-cow....

I just hope we don't see the first festival at Longleat being hosted as a loss-leader....then killed off with spiralling costs in subsequent years and ME having long burned his boats with his neighbours in Pilton.

 

Edited June 3, 2016 by parsonjack

[sime]

I'm beginning to think this might be the beginnings of a slow death to Glastonbury Festival itself. It might not happen for a number of years yet but I can't shrug of the feeling that the Eavis family are in the early stages of some kind of transition. I hope I'm wrong :/