Are we In or Out?

[Lad]

14 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

Even if that's true. It's still there. We still have to deal with it. And if we leave, we have no way to fix it. You're aware the vote was leave or remain in the EU, not to remain or dissolve it?

Oh how were you going to fix it?They don't think it's broken.Perhaps you could sit the Commission down and really give them a piece of your mind.

[russycarps]

Just now, Lad said:

Best get in touch with your imaginary fambo .

 

It's great that your best shot is that I'm not from the city.Wool.You know you are.

why do you people get so rattled by it? 

so where are you from then, kirkby? runcorn? birkenhead? dont be shy chum.

 

[Lad]

48 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Yeah, that evil EU, it planted people in Greek society, forced them to have kids and made them grow up to be major Greek politicians, just so none of it - absolutely zero - could be traced back to the evil EU.

That's how clever they are.

Clever enough for you to swallow that guff you've posted. It's one bleedin project.

 

It's all interconnected. Don't know why you keep missing this.

[Lad]

1 minute ago, russycarps said:

why do you people get so rattled by it? 

so where are you from then, kirkby? runcorn? birkenhead? dont be shy chum.

 

I've already told you dozy arse.Old Swan.As scouse as.

 

Unless some random woolster knows better.

[eFestivals]

52 minutes ago, Lad said:

Clever enough for you to swallow that guff you've posted. It's one bleedin project.

One project, with 28 individual sovereign members.

Greece borrowed money it couldn't pay-back.

The EU "ruining" Greece was the EU saving Greece from bankruptcy at Greece's request; the EU getting Greece's debt's cut in half at Greece's request; and the EU bankrolling Greece even more money for it to piss up the wall yet again at Greece's request, rather than Greece make any attempt to pay its way.

Can you please give the phone numbers of your friends who happily give you money with no expectation of it back, just because you've already spent your own money but would like to spend some more?

We're talking about Greece, the country where it costs more to build a mile of country track than it costs Germany to build ten miles of motorway.

Greece has a better friend in the EU than you have in your life.

 

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It's all interconnected. Don't know why you keep missing this.

so interconnected that you can't show me any of the connections.

I keep asking, and all you've got is the same vacuous bullshit.

Edited July 7, 2016 by eFestivals

[thefatherofgeorge]

I voted out, I can`t see this as a problem.

[russycarps]

2 minutes ago, thefatherofgeorge said:

I voted out, I can`t see this as a problem.

maybe not for you, but it will be for george

 

[thefatherofgeorge]

9 minutes ago, russycarps said:

maybe not for you, but it will be for george

 

Three generations of my family went to Glastonbury this year a 18yo a 46yo and a 71yo. 

We all believe we should be free to do what we like,not what other people tell us what they think is right.

[russycarps]

1 minute ago, thefatherofgeorge said:

Three generations of my family went to Glastonbury this year a 18yo a 46yo and a 71yo. 

We all believe we should be free to do what we like,not what other people tell us what they think is right.

Has anyone said otherwise? It's your right to take a shit directly on your sons head and you've exercised that right.

Congratulations, you're a cretin.

 

 

 

[thefatherofgeorge]

2 minutes ago, russycarps said:

Has anyone said otherwise? It's your right to take a shit directly on your sons head and you've exercised that right.

Congratulations, you're a cretin.

 

 

 

Bless you for your wise words.

[eFestivals]

21 minutes ago, thefatherofgeorge said:

Bless you for your wise words.

that classes as a welcome from russy. you'll get used to him.

 

[russycarps]

27 minutes ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

Careful, now. Only 35 posts!

shit didnt notice that! my bad  

 

[wonker]

54 minutes ago, russycarps said:

maybe not for you, but it will be for george

 

Oh God, I've gone and upvoted Russy.

[russycarps]

27 minutes ago, thefatherofgeorge said:

Bless you for your wise words.

sorry, I didnt mean to be so aggressive. It's an emotional issue. Please stay and give as good as you get!

[HalfAnIdiot]

19 minutes ago, wonker said:

Oh God, I've gone and upvoted Russy.

Fixed that for you 

[thefatherofgeorge]

6 minutes ago, russycarps said:

sorry, I didnt mean to be so aggressive. It's an emotional issue. Please stay and give as good as you get!

I`m a strong believer in free speech, I`ve worked hard(ok I`ve worked) for more than 30 years under various governments and as we all know none of them live in the real world(at least not mine). My granddad would turn in his grave if he knew what the labour party had turned into,we are a docker family or were until machines made our jobs easy for us infact so fucking easy they didn`t need most  us any more. TI want to be free to travel this world, which i will do either in or out of the EU. I am a human being and a english man and being in or out of the EU makes no difference to that.

Don`t worry about being aggressive my shoulders are broad and I`ve a shit brewing so my son had better hide.

[priest17]

I voted remain but, ever the optimist, im hoping that some of these promises that the leave people spoke about might come true... 

I never believed we'd get £350m per week going into the NHS, but there was talk of super powered vacuums that the EU wouldn't let us have. Do we have to wait until article 50 passes for these or will Dyson bring out a vacuum that can suck the tv remote from the other side of the room any day now?

[russycarps]

4 hours ago, thefatherofgeorge said:

I`m a strong believer in free speech, I`ve worked hard(ok I`ve worked) for more than 30 years under various governments and as we all know none of them live in the real world(at least not mine). My granddad would turn in his grave if he knew what the labour party had turned into,we are a docker family or were until machines made our jobs easy for us infact so fucking easy they didn`t need most  us any more. TI want to be free to travel this world, which i will do either in or out of the EU. I am a human being and a english man and being in or out of the EU makes no difference to that.

Don`t worry about being aggressive my shoulders are broad and I`ve a shit brewing so my son had better hide.

Thanks.

That's another horrible thing about this referendum. It's turned people who are politically on the same side, against each other. More divisions in society. As if there aren't enough already

 

[midnight]

On 28 June 2016 at 4:48 PM, Ommadawn said:

Well, as I said in an earlier post, lets meet back here in 12 months time (assuming we still have electricity then of course) and see just how bad Brexit has been for Britain and whether it's been fucked as a result. Better make it during the day so we don't have to view the screen by gas light . Hopefully the 'Headless Chickens' will have stopped flapping by then.

 

I have been trying to keep out of this, as I am not a Brit, just one of those European immigrants, so wasn't even allowed to vote.

But I am already dealing with the real fall out of this decision in my personal life and at work now, and if you really believe what you wrote there, you have absolutely no idea. 

None

What 

So

Ever.

I bet my last depleted £ that this will come back to bite loads more people in the butt (will take more than 12 months, though), and when the time comes, rest assured that I won't be sitting here telling them that their problems and worries are inflated and they should take it easy/cheer up. Because that would be adding insult to injury. 

Just saying.

Edited July 7, 2016 by midnight
typo

[midnight]

On 28 June 2016 at 7:01 PM, smudger said:

Yeah you're right, in a year maybe the headless chickens will have stopped flapping. If they've any sense, or of course any ability to, they would have fucked off out of this mess. In a year, the chances are Scotland will be well on the way to independence, and who can blame them, Ireland will be looking at unification and we all know what that will mean for the peace process, the blatant NHS lie is already exposed as just that, Income tax will be up, exports will be down, import prices will be up, the scum that think their nasty racist views are now legitimate, will have made those immigrants who came here to work and contribute to our society feel trapped and in danger in their own homes. We'll be looking at a permanent right wing Tory government, who will have ripped up workers rights because 'we have to compete against the 3rd world markets', which of course mean 3rd world conditions. A race to the bottom.

Great Britain will be great again though won't it? Back to that never existed rosy time just after we won the war, then Spitfires flew, and unmarried mothers had back street abortions. Back to believing that for some reason just being born this side of the channel makes you 'special'. We don't need them do we? We British, sorry English and Welsh for fucks sake! We know how to tell anyone who tries to tell us that we're falling off a cliff, how to fuck off. We'll show them won't we! We fuck ourselves over and then lets see those posh middle class w*nkers react! That'll show them!

You maybe happy to take the chance that it will be better, against the advice of practically any economist of any note, happy to gamble the continued existence of the UK, because of some failings in the workings of a multinational EU, happy to rip up all the good things we've had because of a few reckless lies and racist innuendo.

Who knows, against all of the odds, you maybe right, we could do better outside the EU, Europe will let us trade freely, let us access their markets, but have not to pay a price for it, the Scots will stay, the racist will go away, the peace process will hold, my kids will feel accepted and welcomed in Europe, our NHS won't suffer from a massive brain drain of staff, austerity will go away, the steel mills and mines will reopen, kids will have a future, it won't rain at Glastonbury and Boris won't sneak up on you and rip your fucking heart out.

So.......lets risk all of that, for an unrealistic fantasy. Yeah good call...

(just in case you're not sure, I think you're wrong and I was joking about the rain at Glastonbury)

Yes.

[Quark]

Don't know if anyone else has already seen it, mentioned it or even cares about it, but came across this today.  Picked upa copy in Tesco, will let you know if it's any good or not.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/the-new-european-newspaper-brexit_uk_577e68ade4b074297db2ac61

[Quark]

23 hours ago, russycarps said:

sorry, I didnt mean to be so aggressive. It's an emotional issue. Please stay and give as good as you get!

That's really thrown me Russy, I've only ever seen the agressive and abusive side of you.  I knew there was a heart of gold in there somewhere

[MEGABOWL]

1 hour ago, Quark said:

Don't know if anyone else has already seen it, mentioned it or even cares about it, but came across this today.  Picked upa copy in Tesco, will let you know if it's any good or not.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/the-new-european-newspaper-brexit_uk_577e68ade4b074297db2ac61

I like the idea but that cartoon on the cover is such a facepalm I have a red mark on my forehead

[Quark]

1 hour ago, MEGABOWL said:

I like the idea but that cartoon on the cover is such a facepalm I have a red mark on my forehead

I'll not lie, I did have to struggle past that to buy it

[Teddington]

Think we all need to move on tbh.

I voted Remain for reasons I have already given, but the majority, rightly or wrongly voted Leave.  We now need to make the best of that decision.

Rightly or wrongly democracy has prevailed.

 

Though personally it has demonstrated the lack of value of referrendums.  People vote to express their opinion on multiple issues rather than the one at hand.

 

What is interesting is the split of votes depending on geography, politics and various  other factors.

 

Extreme Right and Left voting out (by and large).