Biffy Clyro

[DomDom1984]

4 minutes ago, Swieve said:

I'll go further,  biffy,  as much as I like them,  are not the same status as metallica,  the who,  k. west, coldplay  etc

Mumford and Sons aren't the same status as most of them and they headlined. What point are you trying to prove with that?

[Swieve]

5 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

Reckon Biffy would be happy enough to sub at Glasto. Don't think it's going to happen though.

This is absolutely correct.  Subbing the pyramid is similar status to headlining other UK festivals.  When's the last time you saw the status of Springsteen,  u2,  rolling stones headline other UK fests.  That's why Glastonbury is different and gets wall to wall coverage  

[chazwwe]

1 minute ago, Swieve said:

This is absolutely correct.  Subbing the pyramid is similar status to headlining other UK festivals.  When's the last time you saw the status of Springsteen,  u2,  rolling stones headline other UK fests.  That's why Glastonbury is different and gets wall to wall coverage  

But yet, Arcade Fire, Metallica, Coldplay, Kasabian, Muse, Foo Fighters (Florance), Arctic Monkeys, Mumford & Sons, have all headlined in the past 3-4 years and have played at other festivals around the UK. Normally on the same tour. 

I'm not saying Biffy 'deserve' to headline. I don't think they'll be there as much as I'm a fan of theirs. If their next album sells well though, they have the right to say they want to headline. 

[deadpheasant]

They're playing Belsonic in Northern Ireland on the Saturday. Don't know if this makes them more or less likely. I will imagine it's the latter which is disappointing as they'd be a cracking sub to Muse

[Bobs]

They're in that position now aren't they... that really awkward position a few bands are in where they're too big to sub (In my opinion of course), yet too small to headline, so where can you put them? 

I still think they'd be a hit headlining the other stage, against Adele (obviously not going to happen now with Belsonic, nor was it ever likely), under a 'special' headlining slot. 

It's a crying shame, as both times i've seen Biffy at Glastonbury, they've been excellent, especially in their not so 'secret' slot on the park. I'd welcome them with open arms, but the question is, where would you put them?

[Swieve]

5 hours ago, DomDom1984 said:

Mumford and Sons aren't the same status as most of them and they headlined. What point are you trying to prove with that?

The point i was making is that they are not too big to be subbing on the pyramid. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary. Equally they are big enough to headline. The initial point made by someone else was that they were too big to sub

[thewayiam]

4 hours ago, deadpheasant said:

They're playing Belsonic in Northern Ireland on the Saturday. Don't know if this makes them more or less likely. I will imagine it's the latter which is disappointing as they'd be a cracking sub to Muse

I'm going with Biffy, Ellie and Foals to sub Pyramid.....probably won't happen.

[paulmuchmore]

They're one of those peculiar bands that can only really headline festivals in this country. I saw them at Main Square Festival in France in 2013, the same year they headlined Reading and Leeds, and they played below Green Day (headliners), 30 Seconds to Mars and a closing set from The Prodigy. 

I guess it's like LCD headlining major festivals in the USA, but only subbing/headlining the second stage over here.

I think they'd be a great Glasto headliner, for me certainly moreso than Mumford and Sons, Kasabian and Arcade Fire who have done it recently. But it doesn't look like it's happening this year. Maybe next?

[FloorFiller]

2 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

I'm going with Biffy, Ellie and Foals to sub Pyramid.....probably won't happen.

Would be a huge trio, but yeah, Biffy are unlikely I'd have thought. Couldn't hazard a guess at who the third will be, mind

[thewayiam]

10 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Would be a huge trio, but yeah, Biffy are unlikely I'd have thought. Couldn't hazard a guess at who the third will be, mind

Mine would be Faithless but if 3rd down at T I'm not sure they'll sub Glasto. I think Biffy are too big to open other though. Tuesday will tell all though with their status, it needs to be English Exclusive to keep them away.

[FloorFiller]

1 minute ago, thewayiam said:

Mine would be Faithless but if 3rd down at T I'm not sure they'll sub Glasto. I think Biffy are too big to open other though. Tuesday will tell all though with their status, it needs to be English Exclusive to keep them away.

Hadn't thought about the exclusivity at R/L, so yeah that'll be a giveaway, although so far their exclusive scorecard hasn't been the best so it could mean nothing. I'm sure they'll have both Biffy and FOB down as some kind of exclusives though 

[thewayiam]

1 minute ago, FloorFiller said:

Hadn't thought about the exclusivity at R/L, so yeah that'll be a giveaway, although so far their exclusive scorecard hasn't been the best so it could mean nothing. I'm sure they'll have both Biffy and FOB down as some kind of exclusives though 

Haha, Biffy Clyro and FOB announced as English Exclusives within a 50 mile radius haha. We have to remember that Biffy might well have already agreed to play a slot at Glasto by the time Reading wanted them to top their festival. As they will be co-heading, I know it's different but Pulp co-headlined and played Glasto, and being in Ireland on Saturday is way too convenient.

[siweltrebor]

I guess they could sub Muse or Coldplay quite nicely at Glastonbury, i'd assume they are exclusive for Reading/Leeds though,

From headliner in 2013 or 14? to co-headliner in 2016, not sure where the prestige in headlining Reading is going with what 5 headliners now in 2016, RHCP the only band to respectfully have the closer to themselves

 

Edited February 26, 2016 by siweltrebor

[siweltrebor]

Perhaps if a new album is coming, R and L will get them this year

but Glastonbury could have them in 2017, it's the kind of booking they will do one day i'm sure.

[thewayiam]

15 hours ago, siweltrebor said:

I guess they could sub Muse or Coldplay quite nicely at Glastonbury, i'd assume they are exclusive for Reading/Leeds though,

From headliner in 2013 or 14? to co-headliner in 2016, not sure where the prestige in headlining Reading is going with what 5 headliners now in 2016, RHCP the only band to respectfully have the closer to themselves

 

Don't assume anything, that's what people thought for the last one's and Biffy have indicated themselves that it'll be more than just one fest this year, and others were likely already agreed. You have to remember than Biffy weren't a plan for Reading. I'd be a little surprised if they were just doing Belfast in the middle of a possible 10 day gap and FOB will sell a fair share of tickets for Reading themselves. 

[LondonTom]

On 2/26/2016 at 1:30 PM, Swieve said:

Subbing the pyramid is similar status to headlining other UK festivals. 

Not in the slightest, if anything it seems to be slightly smaller acts get it more often than not compared to other UK fests. Just look at last year Florence (as planned), Pharrell, Paul Weller. None of them are headlining any of the other big UK fests...

 

Not that it matters much.

I'll be disappointed in them if they have decided to take a sub slot, big enough and should headline in reality. (But makes for a great lineup :P)

[Redwinevino]

On 26/02/2016 at 1:28 PM, DomDom1984 said:

Mumford and Sons aren't the same status as most of them and they headlined. What point are you trying to prove with that?

At that time Mumford were utterly massive.

[DomDom1984]

They were pretty big but the original point was about where you draw the line with a statement like that.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

On 27 February 2016 at 7:24 PM, LondonTom said:

Not in the slightest, if anything it seems to be slightly smaller acts get it more often than not compared to other UK fests. Just look at last year Florence (as planned), Pharrell, Paul Weller. None of them are headlining any of the other big UK fests...

 

Not that it matters much.

I'll be disappointed in them if they have decided to take a sub slot, big enough and should headline in reality. (But makes for a great lineup :P)

From memory the T organiser has spoken two years in a row about wanting to book Florence to headline there only to find her unavailable. Although I do agree with your general point

[willutalk]

Not the 'are Biffy big enough to headline ?' convo! Again!!?

[FloorFiller]

Just now, willutalk said:

Not the 'are Biffy big enough to headline ?' convo! Again!!?

They're not though

[willutalk]

1 minute ago, FloorFiller said:

They're not though

It's an odd one this though. It is a question that does seem to be asked perhaps too many times to categorically say no, however I do see where you are coming from. 

The next LP that they release will be the decider for me, it'll either open up the possibility or close the door for good.

 

[pie_and_a_pint]

Matt Everett on 6 Music said they were a Reading/Leeds Festival exclusive... 

[LondonTom]

7 hours ago, Zac Quinn said:

From memory the T organiser has spoken two years in a row about wanting to book Florence to headline there only to find her unavailable. Although I do agree with your general point

So did Emily and Melvin  You would 3 of the UK's biggest promoters might be able to persuade her to headline if they really thought that (Admittedly glasto did eventually). 

Florence like Biffy and all these so called smaller bands should be headlining already,  if people want different and fresh headliners then thats where Festivals have to look. Instead you get all these debates on acts being big enough, which is hardly a vote of confidence for promoters.

5 hours ago, pie_and_a_pint said:

Matt Everett on 6 Music said they were a Reading/Leeds Festival exclusive... 

It seems a grey area to me, some places are reporting it, others are not. (Even the BBC's website didn't this morning and I don't remember him saying exclusive but maybe I missed it). Looks like they are trying sell it as an exclusive without outright saying it for some reason

[the wonderwhy]

It says they're exclusive in the press release