PEARL JAM TO HEADLINE 2016

[Hotchilidog]

3 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

No it couldn't as they're still a festival headlining stadium band as they have been since the last century. They were being offered $1m to do Portuguese festivals this summer. When have they ever had someone that big on the Other Stage?

This is the only thing I am contesting on this thread btw. I realise why they wouldn't be a good choice to headline the Pyramid but people are insane if they think Vedder and co. are going on the Other Stage.

Sadly I think the discussion is moot as I do not expect them to play. I'd love them too though. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

They're too big a deal to play anywhere but as Headliner, but they don't have a sufficient critical mass of cultural impact to be a Headliner.

Ergo, no Jam will be forthcoming.


Edit: Should have phrased this "No Jam tomorrow"

Unless they record another album or massive hit song that travels beyond their fanbase and into the wider zeitgeist.

Edited January 20, 2016 by CaledonianGonzo

[eFestivals]

20 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

As opposed to Arcade Fire with their string of Number 1 Singles...?  Seriously, is this how we're valuing headliner status now, by singles chart positions?

Arcade Fire might be off the radar of lots of folks (as are PJ), but they are at least contemporary and so have a greater relevance as headliner.

 

[home to you]

I've completely lost track of this thread. Are they headlining the Other or co-headlining the Pyramid with Coldplay?

[Justiceforcedave]

Pearl Jam headline festivals all around the world. I suspect they and their management consider them a headlining band.

If Glastonbury, like Reading, Isle of Wight etc see them as a headlining band also, then maybe one day we'll see Pearl Jam headline the Pyramid. If they don't then I doubt Pearl Jam will get "the call" and if they did they'd say no.

ergo, if they play they headline.

Why would a band who headline everywhere else accept less then a headline slot at one festival?

Edited January 20, 2016 by Justiceforcedave

[Mezhyp1]

9 minutes ago, TomViolence said:

I've completely lost track of this thread. Are they headlining the Other or co-headlining the Pyramid with Coldplay?

Close, Stonebridge Bar Thursday night, see you there Tom 

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

Pearl Jam headline festivals all around the world. I suspect they and their management consider them a headlining band.

If Glastonbury, like Reading, Isle of Wight etc see them as a headlining band also, then maybe one day we'll see Pearl Jam headline the Pyramid. If they don't then I doubt Pearl Jam will get "the call" and if they did they'd say no.

ergo, if they play they headline.

Why would a band who headline everywhere else accept less then a headline slot at one festival?

Prodigy.

 

[theDandy]

35 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

As opposed to Arcade Fire with their string of Number 1 Singles...?  Seriously, is this how we're valuing headliner status now, by singles chart positions?

No it's just Arcade Fire are a much, much better band and are much more relevant today as a band.

[maelzoid]

1 minute ago, theDandy said:

No it's just Arcade Fire are a much, much better band and are much more relevant today as a band.

Better is just a matter of opinion. I've seen both bands live and have no doubt about which one I prefer.

Relevance is such a slippery concept, hard to define, but one that is actually affected by a Glastonbury booking.

[theDandy]

2 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

Better is just a matter of opinion. I've seen both bands live and have no doubt about which one I prefer.

Relevance is such a slippery concept, hard to define, but one that is actually affected by a Glastonbury booking.

True it is a matter of opinion, and with Arcade Fire being one of my favourite bands (and favourite band to see live) of all time I'm due to be biased. I just can't see past Pearl Jam and Eddie Vedder's annoying voice which no doubt helped inspire the likes of Chad Kroeger and Alex Band of the Calling. I suppose I need to give Pearl Jam a better chance really. In terms of relevance Arcade Fire are obviously much more relevant at the moment, I don't think I'm being biased in saying that, but then again maybe I am.

[Justiceforcedave]

15 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Prodigy.

 

Point taken, but the Prodigy have gone up and down festival bills. PJ have always been up at the top.

[cornish hick]

6 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

Better is just a matter of opinion. I've seen both bands live and have no doubt about which one I prefer.

Relevance is such a slippery concept, hard to define, but one that is actually affected by a Glastonbury booking.

well said 'zoid - music taste / who is better etc is down to the persons preferences and nothing else.

I don't claim PJ  >>>> AF  I just like PJ >>>> AF

[cornish hick]

39 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

Erm... No. They don't.

again correct - I don't and neither do a fair few of my mates.

[Woffy]

25 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

Pearl Jam headline festivals all around the world. I suspect they and their management consider them a headlining band.

If Glastonbury, like Reading, Isle of Wight etc see them as a headlining band also, then maybe one day we'll see Pearl Jam headline the Pyramid. If they don't then I doubt Pearl Jam will get "the call" and if they did they'd say no.

ergo, if they play they headline.

Why would a band who headline everywhere else accept less then a headline slot at one festival?

Ahhhhhhh, 'The Placebo Paradox'.

[maelzoid]

5 minutes ago, theDandy said:

True it is a matter of opinion, and with Arcade Fire being one of my favourite bands (and favourite band to see live) of all time I'm due to be biased. I just can't see past Pearl Jam and Eddie Vedder's annoying voice which no doubt helped inspire the likes of Chad Kroeger and Alex Band of the Calling. I suppose I need to give Pearl Jam a better chance really. In terms of relevance Arcade Fire are obviously much more relevant at the moment, I don't think I'm being biased in saying that, but then again maybe I am.

Ha. There may be truth in it, but its unfair to blame Eddie Vedder for Nickelback, Creed, Puddle of Mudd, the Calling et al.

Should Faith No More and RATM accept responsibility for Limp Bizkit? Actually the bass player from RATM publically apologised for Limp Bizkit.

 

[Justiceforcedave]

1 minute ago, Woffy said:

Ahhhhhhh, 'The Placebo Paradox'.

.....let's give credit where credit is due, Pearl Jam are a step above Placebo!

But yes, spot on. Why the hell would Pearl Jam come and sub Glastonbury? Take a smaller paycheck, play for an hour and potentially "devalue" themselves in the festival market.

Maybe one day they'll start having to take lower slots (See Smashing Pumpkins) but for now it's headline or nada!

[Justiceforcedave]

Is it Volbeat who were headlining festivals in Europe and opening the mainstage at Download?

[The Nal]

23 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

Better is just a matter of opinion. I've seen both bands live and have no doubt about which one I prefer.

Relevance is such a slippery concept, hard to define, but one that is actually affected by a Glastonbury booking.

Have to remember, Arcade Fire didn't pull a massive crowd. Just can't see a PJ headline set going down too well. "Pearl Jam? Oh, that grunge band from the 90s were they?"

Other Stage!

Edited January 20, 2016 by The Nal

[Woffy]

2 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

.....let's give credit where credit is due, Pearl Jam are a step above Placebo!
 

True. Who are in turn a step above the Germano-centric '(Hassel)Hoff Paradox'.

[eFestivals]

11 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

Point taken, but the Prodigy have gone up and down festival bills. PJ have always been up at the top.

the only fest where they've really been 'down' is at Glasto.

 

[Justiceforcedave]

Just now, eFestivals said:

the only fest where they've really been 'down' is at Glasto.

 

They also played underneath Arctic Monkeys at Reading in 2009

[theDandy]

6 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

Ha. There may be truth in it, but its unfair to blame Eddie Vedder for Nickelback, Creed, Puddle of Mudd, the Calling et al.

Should Faith No More and RATM accept responsibility for Limp Bizkit? Actually the bass player from RATM publically apologised for Limp Bizkit.

 

Alas, very true. Very true. Is Ten the best place to start with Pearl Jam? I have listened before and couldn't get in to it all to much but with the overwhelming support and general liking for them on here I may give them another chance.

[Woffy]

Regardless of how good a live band or personal music preference, Neil is right in that AF (and I'm not a fan) are far more relevant atm (or more recently) than PJ are now.

PJ headlining the Pyramid, for example, would be met with a tsunami of indifference from Glastogoers as a whole. The wouldn't attract the merely curious in the same numbers as AF.

[Brave Sir Robin]

2 minutes ago, theDandy said:

Alas, very true. Very true. Is Ten the best place to start with Pearl Jam? I have listened before and couldn't get in to it all to much but with the overwhelming support and general liking for them on here I may give them another chance.

I'd say Rearviewmirror, the 2CD best of, to sample some of the later stuff too.

[Mezhyp1]

6 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

They also played underneath Arctic Monkeys at Reading in 2009

And the second stage a few times at titp