Efests General Election

[russycarps]

All of which is fine...but is nothing like what you previously said.

I think the point is none of us would want to be friends with you in real life because you're a tory c**t.

[the_hedge]

I think the point is none of us would want to be friends with you in real life because you're a tory c**t.

Nice!

[pryce]

trying to imagine if this was an American festival website, would be some proper hate then with parties who actually think and act differently

[kaosmark2]

trying to imagine if this was an American festival website, would be some proper hate then with parties who actually think and act differently

In America they have a right wing party and a centre-right party.

Here we have 2 centre-right parties and a centre-left party (who 5 years ago had forgotten about the left part of that). Oh, and a bunch of nationalists.

The differences on each side of the pond are mostly about where the centre point is. Labour vs Tory is about the same gap as Republican vs Democrat.

[TheGayTent]

I think the point is none of us would want to be friends with you in real life because you're a tory c**t.

Phew

[kaosmark2]

All of which is fine...but is nothing like what you previously said.

What I previously said was briefer, contained only one side to counter the "I can't imagine" comment, and hyperbolic.

When only one side was queried, I used extreme examples to portray a hypothetical which would make such a stance easy to understand. It wasn't meant to be a full explanation as above.

[The Nal]

If you care about our country, you've gotta get the conservatives out of government

Irish so can't vote but is a war that cost 30 billion and killed a million people not worse than anything the Tories have to offer? I mean if were talking recent history. Or is that old news?

Genuine question. Don't know too much about this election.

Edited May 7, 2015 by The Nal

[kaosmark2]

Irish so can't vote but is a war that cost 30 billion and killed a million people not worse than anything the Tories have to offer? I mean if were talking recent history. Or is that old news?

A war the Tories voted for?

[pryce]

A war the Tories voted for?

still doesn't defend labours stance does it?

[The Nal]

A war the Tories voted for?

Based on wrong information presented to them by a Labour government?

Anyway Ill be keeping an eye out. Interested to see a few mates voting Tory who previously would never consider it.

[TheGayTent]

What I previously said was briefer, contained only one side to counter the "I can't imagine" comment, and hyperbolic.

When only one side was queried, I used extreme examples to portray a hypothetical which would make such a stance easy to understand. It wasn't meant to be a full explanation as above.

I just think you missed some words out between "you" and "deeply"

[eFestivals]

A war the Tories voted for?

a war they voted for more-strongly than did the MPs of that Labour govt.

Irish so can't vote but is a war that cost 30 billion and killed a million people not worse than anything the Tories have to offer? I mean if were talking recent history. Or is that old news?

Genuine question. Don't know too much about this election.

Perhaps stop for a moment and reconsider Irish history of just over a century ago, to around 95 years ago?

Or just read Dangerfield?

Edited May 7, 2015 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

Based on wrong information presented to them by a Labour government?

The smart people always knew Blair was spouting a crock of shit.

It was the dumb people who believed him - and that was the tory party more than any other party.

Edited May 7, 2015 by eFestivals

[kaosmark2]

still doesn't defend labours stance does it?

Nope. I think New Labour were pretty detestable. I voted Lib Dem in 2010 to get a New Labour loyalist out, and for Ed in the Labour campaign because he wasn't defending the war, or ID cards, or lots of what I despised about NL.

[The Nal]

Perhaps stop for a moment and reconsider Irish history of just over a century ago, to around 95 years ago?

Sort of the point? How long before its "cleansed"? Load of 1916 stuff happening next year which Ill have no part in.

Or just read Dangerfield?

The Damnable Question? Must give that book a spin alright. Actually may pick it up 2nd hand on ebay now.

[eFestivals]

Sort of the point? How long before its "cleansed"?

They certainly won't be 'cleansed' until they stop acting in the same manner, which they still do.

The Damnable Question? Must give that book a spin alright. Actually may pick it up 2nd hand on ebay now.

I don't actually know that one but now I do I'll check it out, thanks.

I was thinking "The Strange Death of Liberal England" (which I have read) as that details how come the shit got to hit the fan, and what the tories did to make it happen.

The tories would sell their own grannies to keep hold of power. You can probably bid for Chicken Dave's on eBay today.

Edited May 7, 2015 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

I was thinking "The Strange Death of Liberal England" (which I have read) as that details how come the shit got to hit the fan, and what the tories did to make it happen.

PS:

For anyone who's read that, they'll know that the tories have played things in Scotland in a very similar way to how they did in Ireland a century ago - tho thankfully without them supplying guns and MI5 agents to the murderers this time around.

[LondonTom]

Today. Vote anything but labour = get tory.

Depends where you live...

Vote anything = get labour for me

[Gucci Piggy]

Depends where you live...

Vote anything = get labour for me

Vote anything = get Tory for me. Bleh.

[philipsteak]

Yeah, I'm in the safest of Lib Dem seats (that should narrow it down, there aren't too many of those), To be honest, I'm just happy UKIP have such a low showing around here. It just seems like it would be a bit 'UKIPy'

[Spindles]

If UKIP fail to achieve anything today will the media continue to give them the vastly inflated attention that they have had over the last few years?

[gary1979666]

If UKIP fail to achieve anything today will the media continue to give them the vastly inflated attention that they have had over the last few years?

I think that's down to what happens in South Thanet. If Farage loses and resigns, then I'd struggle to name any other UKIP representrative - I guess Carswell & Reckless, but the latter is likely to loses and they've only been UKIP less than a year (I think). Old Nige has done wonders for the party, to be fair to him. I don't like him, but he's raised the profile almost single handedly.

[russycarps]

I think that's down to what happens in South Thanet. If Farage loses and resigns, then I'd struggle to name any other UKIP representrative - I guess Carswell & Reckless, but the latter is likely to loses and they've only been UKIP less than a year (I think). Old Nige has done wonders for the party, to be fair to him. I don't like him, but he's raised the profile almost single handedly.

I agree with this. Farage IS UKIP. We have to pray that the racists of kent are outnumbered by the tory tosspots....

[lharris92]

I suspect if there is a chance Farage would get in then there may be a few who would vote tactically to avoid that situation.

https://election.38degrees.org.uk/constituencies/south-thanet

theoretically how it looks

Edited May 7, 2015 by lharris92

[justanothername]

You're really into this ballot-spoiling business, aren't you?

Nah, I just think it is a viable option and something people should consider if they don't like any of the parties. But that being said the first election I took part in was when Rotherham had to re-elect the Police Commissioner I spoiled my ballot over the circumstance

Also my mate who said he was going to vote UKIP now came out today to say he is voting Labour and one girl at my sixth forum also said she was torn between voting Labour and UKIP which I didn't understand at all