Savile and the BBC crisis

[rug568]

Certainly at this point they shouldn't name him, but if further evidence of abuse is uncovered which is substantial enough to start a police investigation then they should name him.

[thetime]

Certainly at this point they shouldn't name him, but if further evidence of abuse is uncovered which is substantial enough to start a police investigation then they should name him.

[pink_triangle]

So they shouldnt its a disgrace if they or any part of the media do.

[thetime]

I think that should be judged on a case by case basis. Lets not forget that the general publics knowledge of the Saville Scandal was not down to our justice system but a tv program.

Its well known that throughout history the political class have protected their own by controlling the justice system. I think if a journalist feels they have strong evidence which is ignored by the justice route, there are times when the media does have a moral duty to take the lead.

[pink_triangle]

Even though the accused could be innocent? The meat head brigade saying no smoke without fire....lets kill the bastard.

Take the footie manager david jones who was accused of child abuse but was totally innocent, he still gets abuse today.

[kaosmark2]

As I said earlier its a case by case basis, most would say it was right Jimmy Saville was exposed despite the justice system not being the route which exposed him. I agree with the principle that the media should not expose as the accused could be innocent, however that only works if you believe rich and poor, powerfull and powerless, conncected and unconnected are all treated as equals by our justice system. i think most would accept that those at the top get a very different kind of justice than those at the bottom of the chain. If a guilty person is protected from justice via connections (not saying for certain they have in this case, but history means its far from impossible) who will expose the guilty person if the media dont?

[5co77ie]

[5co77ie]

Having read this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/28/jersey-secrecy-culture

and this

http://leahmcgrathgoodman.com/2012/06/29/anarchy-in-the-uk/

I suspect the truth will never see the light of day.

I found that after reading about Leah McGrath Goodman who Theresa May barred from the UK for looking into a high level paedophile ring:

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2012/11/07/high-level-child-abuse-cover-up-why-has-theresa-may-barred-a-us-journalist-from-the-uk/

Edited November 9, 2012 by 5co77ie

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Now Dave Lee Travis has been arrested for sexual offences. I wonder what he had been getting up to with his hairy cornflake ;-)

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

Rod Hull Used Emu to grope his fans, says Eric Bristow.

http://www.thesun.co...ic-bristow.html

Edited November 18, 2012 by RobertProsineckisLighter

[Rufus Gwertigan]

This is getting to be a witch hunt. It seems like the remit of the police investigation is far wider than that of child abuse. While been a sex pest is distasteful one wonders if it should be part of the investigation.

[feral chile]

This is getting to be a witch hunt. It seems like the remit of the police investigation is far wider than that of child abuse. While been a sex pest is distasteful one wonders if it should be part of the investigation.

[TheGayTent]

Depends how serious the offence is I suppose. A slap around the gob used to deter most serial gropers.

[feral chile]

Hello Mr Bristow

[TheGayTent]

Wasn't a criticism - just a topical comment!

[Ed209]

Max Clifford arrested now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765

[eFestivals]

Max Clifford arrested now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765

that's quite amusing.

At a guess i reckon he's been hauled in to tell them the names of the people who he's said are phoning him up for him to try and keep their names out of the papers to do with all angles of this.

[fatyeti24]

Max Clifford arrested now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765

[Ed209]

that's quite amusing.

At a guess i reckon he's been hauled in to tell them the names of the people who he's said are phoning him up for him to try and keep their names out of the papers to do with all angles of this.

[Kowalski]

I was sad to see Stuart Hall get arrested yesterday, I loved Its a Knockout. This whole saga really makes you change opinions of people you thought you liked.

As for Max Clifford, these alleged crimes are truly awful, but I nearly fell off my seat laughing at the news - hope that's acceptable! An utter c**t of a man, hope the smug grin was wiped off his face when he got a knock on his door this morning!

[eFestivals]

I was sad to see Stuart Hall get arrested yesterday

I've been racking my brains since I heard of that one - cos i'm pretty sure that something along these lines has come up about him before (it's perhaps the same case, i'm not sure)

There's defo some reason for why he went from a major BBC presenter to an almost no-one on the radio in the years gone by.

[thetime]

I was sad to see Stuart Hall get arrested yesterday, I loved Its a Knockout. This whole saga really makes you change opinions of people you thought you liked.

[ralph250]

I missed that one, has he been charged?

[zahidf]

that's quite amusing.

At a guess i reckon he's been hauled in to tell them the names of the people who he's said are phoning him up for him to try and keep their names out of the papers to do with all angles of this.

[windy_miller]

The best letter I ever saw in Viz was...

"If Max Clifford is so good at PR, why does everyone think he's a c**t?"

Edited December 7, 2012 by windy_miller