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[Guest]

They should definitely pay VAT. 

[steviewevie]

17 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

They should definitely pay VAT. 

just prices out some at lower end, still enables the rich to ensure their kids get a superior education and other advantages that come from going to a certain school.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

just prices out some at lower end, still enables the rich to ensure their kids get a superior education and other advantages that come from going to a certain school.

Oh yeah I agree but I’m the short term at least forcing them to pay VAT would be a good start. 

[Rufus Gwertigan]

21 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

just prices out some at lower end, still enables the rich to ensure their kids get a superior education and other advantages that come from going to a certain school.

What would the knock effect be for those on bursaries from deprived backgrounds 

[philipsteak]

1 hour ago, lost said:

Its actually "white British" so wouldn't include say the Polish. As far as i can see the majority of the world is probably more religious than we are so its unlikely we import many atheists. Is the religious drop off more religious oldies dying and being replaced with young atheists?  

There was a campaign to get people to choose atheist rather than just defaulting to Christian out of habit.

No idea how much of a part that played. 

[Rufus Gwertigan]

5 minutes ago, philipsteak said:

There was a campaign to get people to choose atheist rather than just defaulting to Christian out of habit.

No idea how much of a part that played. 

People can opt for that under the other religions categories. Apparently a few people stated atheist or agnostic 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

They should definitely pay VAT. 

it'll be the kids parents who pay vat!!!!

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

What would the knock effect be for those on bursaries from deprived backgrounds 

they will have to make do with state education?

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

they will have to make do with state education?

Diddums.

[squirrelarmy]

On 11/29/2022 at 2:29 PM, Neil said:

Some interesting stuff from the census. Can't post the link dammit. Best thing is loads of people saying no religion, the facts are winning out. 

 

 

 

Couldn’t find Jedi on the list. Obviously missed my form out. 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

 

[zahidf]

 

 

Anti semitic old crank

[pink_triangle]

18 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

One of the consequences of reducing access to private schools will be a growing competition for entry into state schools and everything that goes a long with that.  As said before, the only people that get stung with this stuff is the middle class types struggling to find the money for the fees and the lower classes on bursaries etc. The rich just carry on regardless.  Its not much of an election winner when Starmer needs these nasty middle class types to vote for him 😛 

It could also potentially push house prices up in the catchment areas of the better schools. People forget some of the best state schools are private in another name, as only people with a certain income can afford the housing to attend them.

[Guest]

Nah, fuck private schools, make them pay VAT.

[zahidf]

Ian Blackford has been visited by the men in grey kilts and has been ousted as SNP Westminster leader 

[zahidf]

All the polls have shown that making private schools pay VAT is a popular policy

There's no real reason why they should be getting tax breaks. May as well do the popular thing and get more money into government coffers. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

All the polls have shown that making private schools pay VAT is a popular policy

There's no real reason why they should be getting tax breaks. May as well do the popular thing and get more money into government coffers. 

Yep, exactly. Private schools shouldn’t really be a thing anyway but at the very least they should pay VAT. 

[cellar]

It's crazy private schools don't already pay VAT to be honest

[kaosmark2]

5 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Well they pay for the state sector and the private sector - that is why...

I think I fall down on the side of them not getting tax breaks but its something I would do over 10 years not all at once.  You have to enhance the state sector to cope with the switch.  But this hurts more normal average people not rich people.

Love your understanding of normal average people.

[cellar]

12 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

While being "popular" with certain sections It isn't a vote winner that is for sure...  

Anyone who sends their kids to private school and was considering voting Labour now absolutely will not - and lots of people who vote Labour do, it isn't just a Tory thing.....  No one votes to fuck over themsleves or specially their kids.  Meanwhile, anyone who was going to vote Tory isn't going to look at that and say, wow, I am now voting Labour.

Its a pointless policy for Labour to adopt right now really.  Maybe Starmer is getting carried away with the current pointless polls but there is a reason why Labour have never gone down this route.

You are very out of touch aren't you 😂

[cellar]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

Am I ?   Or are you...  look at my post above.  The problem is you think average is you and your mates...  its not...  

Do I? What are you basing that on? 

[Guest]

Taxing private schools is clearly a vote winner, just look at polling for that. It’s hardly going to drive people away. No one arguing in good faith will say otherwise. 

[cellar]

2 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Well I posted the facts of what average looks like above...  You clearly think its something else..  Something from the land of fantasy?

I was just saying you're out of touch, you do tend to ramble on in a pretty miserable kind of way - that's all 🙂

[cellar]

I'm guessing you sent your children to private school @Barry Fish - if you're regretting that decision, I don't think this forum is the right place to air your grievances