zahidf Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 The facts its a closed shop for the 12 teams automatically makes the ESL completely shit Throw the book at the teams. player bans from international cmpetion and kick them out the domestic leagues. Make them suffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, mcshed said: That's why the munificent ESL will allow some extra teams to compete each season whilst not allowing them a fair cut of the money. And if by some miracle they do a Leicester and win the thing their "reward" next season maybe to be relegated out of the league whilst say an arsenal sit flat bottom on zero points. The team at the bottom then can use the league money to buy up all their players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, eFestivals said: You're offended by the idea of a ESL(that you still won't win) but nothing of the morals of your owners. I don't give a toss about the morals of our owner. Neither do you, you're just upset his emergence has turned your football clubs into also rans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, eFestivals said: I hope they do but would be difficult to make that stick legally. They make the rules as to who can be picked for the teams dont they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, eastynh said: You are going to have to define plastic fans and plastic club to me. “Plastic can either be ‘synthetic’ or ‘biobased’. Synthetic plastics are derived from crude oil, natural gas or coal. Whilst biobased plastics come from renewable products such as carbohydrates, starch, vegetable fats and oils, bacteria and other biological substances. The vast majority of plastic in use today is synthetic because of the ease of manufacturing methods involved in the processing of crude oil. However, the growing demand for limited oil-reserves is driving a need for newer plastics from renewable resources such as waste biomass or animal-waste products from the industry.” You can see why the term plastics has been applied to fans who follow the money. Plastic is made from oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Dansons Wig Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, zahidf said: They make the rules as to who can be picked for the teams dont they? Its when Sky's lawyers knock on the door demanding the TV deal money back that we'll find out how big their cojones really are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Ted Dansons Wig said: Its when Sky's lawyers knock on the door demanding the TV deal money back that we'll find out how big their cojones really are According to politico, they'll be knocking on the clubs door... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: “Plastic can either be ‘synthetic’ or ‘biobased’. Synthetic plastics are derived from crude oil, natural gas or coal. Whilst biobased plastics come from renewable products such as carbohydrates, starch, vegetable fats and oils, bacteria and other biological substances. The vast majority of plastic in use today is synthetic because of the ease of manufacturing methods involved in the processing of crude oil. However, the growing demand for limited oil-reserves is driving a need for newer plastics from renewable resources such as waste biomass or animal-waste products from the industry.” You can see why the term plastics has been applied to fans who follow the money. Plastic is made from oil. I know what plastic is made from. The term plastic fans was coined for glory hunters. United and Liverpool fans who could not point Manchester or Liverpool out on a map are the original plastic fans. The term had nothing to do with oil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: “Plastic can either be ‘synthetic’ or ‘biobased’. Synthetic plastics are derived from crude oil, natural gas or coal. Whilst biobased plastics come from renewable products such as carbohydrates, starch, vegetable fats and oils, bacteria and other biological substances. The vast majority of plastic in use today is synthetic because of the ease of manufacturing methods involved in the processing of crude oil. However, the growing demand for limited oil-reserves is driving a need for newer plastics from renewable resources such as waste biomass or animal-waste products from the industry.” You can see why the term plastics has been applied to fans who follow the money. Plastic is made from oil. I have to be honest, I have absolutely zero respect for the opinions of any fan of a "big" club who isn't from the area. I don't want to hear about how your grandad supported them, or you grew up loving the kit or a certain player, or how much passion you have for the club. It's all false. I know that's a snobbish attitude but fuck it, I don't care, the views of plastic fans mean nothing to me. I love watching American Football, love the sport, watch it every Sunday night when the season is on. But I don't "support" a team, there are some I prefer over others but I can't just pick one and throw all my weight behind them because it would feel false and insincere. I can't generate an emotional attachment to a team thousands of miles away that I've never visited. It just feels insincere. It's how I feel about plastics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, eastynh said: I know what plastic is made from. The term plastic fans was coined for glory hunters. United and Liverpool fans who could not point Manchester or Liverpool out on a map are the original plastic fans. The term had nothing to do with oil. They were known as glory hunters. The term plastics is more recent due to the oil influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: Aimed at all plastic fans of a plastic club. To be fair no one saw you in the footie chat until your club got promoted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, eastynh said: I know what plastic is made from. The term plastic fans was coined for glory hunters. United and Liverpool fans who could not point Manchester or Liverpool out on a map are the original plastic fans. The term had nothing to do with oil. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 I'm going to have burn a few pieces from my football shirt collection too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said: I have to be honest, I have absolutely zero respect for the opinions of any fan of a "big" club who isn't from the area. I don't want to hear about how your grandad supported them, or you grew up loving the kit or a certain player, or how much passion you have for the club. It's all false. I know that's a snobbish attitude but fuck it, I don't care, the views of plastic fans mean nothing to me. I love watching American Football, love the sport, watch it every Sunday night when the season is on. But I don't "support" a team, there are some I prefer over others but I can't just pick one and throw all my weight behind them because it would feel false and insincere. I can't generate an emotional attachment to a team thousands of miles away that I've never visited. It just feels insincere. It's how I feel about plastics. There’s no greater feeling than celebrating a result with the local people who have grown up with the club through all the ups and downs. Going to show you a verse from the Leeds anthem which sums it up perfectly “We've been through it all together, And we've had our ups and downs (UPS AND DOWNS!) We're gonna stay with you forever, at least until the world stops going round” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, thetime said: To be fair no one saw you in the footie chat until your club got promoted. I didn’t discover this section of the forum until recently. I’m usually talking about Glastonbury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, squirrelarmy said: I didn’t discover this section of the forum until recently. I’m usually talking about Glastonbury. Very convenient, you come accross as plastic as any glory hunter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: There’s no greater feeling than celebrating a result with the local people who have grown up with the club through all the ups and downs. Do you actually believe majority of leeds fans are from Leeds? Leeds have there fair share of plastics, due to the successful era of the 70s. Edited April 19, 2021 by thetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, thetime said: Do you actually believe majority of leeds fans are from Leeds? Leeds have there fair share of plastics, due to the successful era of the 70s. I'm actually surprised how few Leeds fans there are around here compared to the big clubs on the other side of the Pennines. I've always thought its a Rugby League thing.. Over in Lancashire there is Salford and St. Helens but no Manchester or Liverpool so its less of a psychological block than for someone from Castleford, Wakefield or Bradford to support a club called Leeds. Edited April 19, 2021 by lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Would love to know the mood at Everton right now... £500m for a new stadium only for the c**ts to raise the drawbridge and block them from ever entering the elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, thetime said: Very convenient, you come accross as plastic as any glory hunter. There’s pictures of me playing with the team on the trainIng ground from the 80s, I’ve been sat with the players post game many times. I used to work at Elland Road in Champions League football days. Working behind the bar on new year’s day with a comedown isn’t fun 😂 One of my mates dads is very influential within the Leeds organisation so I’ve been allowed access to my club that most fans don’t get. My dad used to work there too back when Bremner was managing the side as well. I can honestly say I’ve always been a Leeds fan and always will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, squirrelarmy said: There’s pictures of me playing with the team on the trainIng ground from the 80s, I’ve been sat with the players post game many times. I used to work at Elland Road in Champions League football days. Working behind the bar on new year’s day with a comedown isn’t fun 😂 One of my mates dads is very influential within the Leeds organisation so I’ve been allowed access to my club that most fans don’t get. My dad used to work there too back when Bremner was managing the side as well. I can honestly say I’ve always been a Leeds fan and always will be. Hit a nerve by the sound of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, zahidf said: They make the rules as to who can be picked for the teams dont they? Yeah but govts make rules about restraint of trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Good job Arsenal laid all those people off. They might not have been able to afford the entrance fee otherwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, lost said: I'm actually surprised how few Leeds fans there are around here compared to the big clubs on the other side of the Pennines. I've always thought its a Rugby League thing.. Over in Lancashire there is Salford and St. Helens but no Manchester or Liverpool so its less of a psychological block than for someone from Castleford, Wakefield or Bradford to support a club called Leeds. I see Leeds fans everywhere I go. It's not strange, every successful side has them. Then it gets past on through the generations. I live in Shropshire now, man utd fans are in the minority. The place is full of Liverpool and Everton fans, from the glory days of the 80s I'm presuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.