CG31 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, jyoung said: Rumour is Tuchel is getting a 4.5 year deal. I don't see him lasting half that. We wanted Nagelsmann but weren't getting anywhere in that pursuit apparently. It was offered to Rangnick on an interim basis until the summer but he wasn't interested. Classic Chelsea. Where Hiddink when you need him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gerard the Fab said: Where Hiddink when you need him Old Uncle Guus. Oh well, at least it's not Rafa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, jyoung said: All this unqualified talk, shouldn't have got the job talk... Yeah. No shit?! You don't sack someone because they shouldn't have had the job in the first place. What? Why would you compound a mistake by doing nothing about it once you’ve realised a mistake has been made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, jyoung said: Old Uncle Guus. Oh well, at least it's not Rafa. I like Frank and agree with you in that he should have been given more time. But Rafa is a far better manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 54 minutes ago, eastynh said: Hoping for the quadruple this season though. Pep is just a bit shit that side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 59 minutes ago, jyoung said: All this unqualified talk, shouldn't have got the job talk... Yeah. No shit?! You don't sack someone because they shouldn't have had the job in the first place. We knew we were nowhere near the league when he came him in and that it would be a rebuilding job. He got us CL last year (which nobody expected), promoted youth players and turned them into regulars (everyone moaned for years that we didn't do this), and we would have won the FA Cup had the referee not been shit. Last year was a good start. This year the improvement hasn't been good enough enough and yes, we are underperforming at the moment but look at Arteta and Ole. Form fluctuates. We are still in the FA Cup and Champions League. I think the club chose to give him the opportunity and he should have had the chance to at least see the season through. Nobody is arguing that he was ready for the job or deserved the job in the first place so idk why everyone is obsessing over that. Chelsea chop and change at will, no manager will be given time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Lampard would never have been considered for that job had Chelsea not been working under a transfer embargo. Much like Solksjaer he was in the right place at the right time when the job became available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, thetime said: Pep is just a bit shit that side of things. Hes won a bit more than your paperboy. You're a £500 million Wimbledon. Edit, thats unfair on Wimbledon as they actually won thr FA Cup. Edited January 25, 2021 by eastynh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, eastynh said: Hes won a bit more than your paperboy. You're a £500 million Wimbledon. Edit, thats unfair on Wimbledon as they actually won thr FA Cup. Five years and the best part of a billion quid and he’s delivered what? Two league titles and a few League Cups. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Five years and the best part of a billion quid and he’s delivered what? Two league titles and a few League Cups. Wow. Broke pretty much every record going, revolutionised football in this country, played beautiful football and won a few pots on the way. Or maybe you prefer the United way. Spent over a billion pound since they last won a title, played absolutely dire football and best achievement was coming second to City one season. Just to add, hes also won an FA Cup as well, which was part of a domestic treble, which had never been done in this country before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, eastynh said: revolutionised football in this country, I've heard this claim a lot but i genuinely haven't seen it justified. The biggest changes to football here have been brought about by Wenger, and by Abrahamovic and other huge money owners. What sweeping changes (across the league, not just in Raheem Sterling and his signings) have happened post-Pep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, eastynh said: Hes won a bit more than your paperboy. You're a £500 million Wimbledon. Edit, thats unfair on Wimbledon as they actually won thr FA Cup. Thats not the discussion, pep has been very ordinary in the champions league since barca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, kaosmark2 said: I've heard this claim a lot but i genuinely haven't seen it justified. The biggest changes to football here have been brought about by Wenger, and by Abrahamovic and other huge money owners. What sweeping changes (across the league, not just in Raheem Sterling and his signings) have happened post-Pep? Playing out from the back and using the keeper as an extra outfield player, high press, actually passing the ball rather than lumping it down the channels, narrow full backs and using them as extra midfielders, creating overloads in the final third. No one else played like that in this country and now lots of other teams try to imitate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, thetime said: Thats not the discussion, pep has been very ordinary in the champions league since barca. The discussion is Pep in comparison to Ole, not Peps record in the Champions League. How does Peps record in Champions League compare to Alex Fergusons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, eastynh said: The discussion is Pep in comparison to Ole, not Peps record in the Champions League. How does Peps record in Champions League compare to Alex Fergusons? Who was comparing ole and pep? Different gravy. Do you think pep has been successful since barca in the champions league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 44 minutes ago, eastynh said: Broke pretty much every record going, revolutionised football in this country, played beautiful football and won a few pots on the way. Or maybe you prefer the United way. Spent over a billion pound since they last won a title, played absolutely dire football and best achievement was coming second to City one season. Just to add, hes also won an FA Cup as well, which was part of a domestic treble, which had never been done in this country before. I prefer neither. Guardiola was brought in at great expense and fanfare with the aim of making City the dominant force both at home and in Europe. He hasn’t done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Oh and he’s revolutionised fuck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 59 minutes ago, eastynh said: Playing out from the back and using the keeper as an extra outfield player, high press, actually passing the ball rather than lumping it down the channels, narrow full backs and using them as extra midfielders, creating overloads in the final third. No one else played like that in this country and now lots of other teams try to imitate it. If you think noone else did that in this country before Pep, you didn't watch any team play apart from City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, eastynh said: Playing out from the back and using the keeper as an extra outfield player, high press, actually passing the ball rather than lumping it down the channels, narrow full backs and using them as extra midfielders, creating overloads in the final third. No one else played like that in this country and now lots of other teams try to imitate it. Also known as Bielsaball. He revolutionised the way football is played and his many disciples brought that style of football over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: Also known as Bielsaball. He revolutionised the way football is played and his many disciples brought that style of football over here. Can only think of keegan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said: Oh and he’s revolutionised fuck all. Eh, he's revolutionised Sterling from a flighty winger with no end product to a goal-scoring penetrative wide forward. But it's players I'd say he's impacted, more than the league as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 15 hours ago, eastynh said: Broke pretty much every record going Broke pretty much every spending record going. Broke pretty much every FFP rule going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, eastynh said: revolutionised football in this country, hello Emu, can I introduce you to Uncle Arsene...? Or even Sam Alladyce. Edited January 26, 2021 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, eastynh said: Playing out from the back and using the keeper as an extra outfield player Hello Emu, can I introduce you to 80s football...? (and hey, I'm probably Emu too) Edited January 26, 2021 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 15 hours ago, eastynh said: narrow full backs and using them as extra midfielders hello emu, can I introduce you to Tony Dorigo....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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