When will this shit end?

[steviewevie]

28 minutes ago, kalifire said:

He went on to say that behavioural change needs to be slow and that even if it’s not, hospitalisations could get pretty scary and that restrictions could come back within two months. 

That’s not the sound of a man confident of his strategy. 

No, indeed. Anyway, I agree with what others have said, in the end the buck stops with Johnson, it's a big gamble, but maybe he didn't have much choice with his MPs etc.

[Guest]

Vaccination update:

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Our local tea rooms and a local pub closed for at least a week due to staff self isolating. Lockdown by stealth...

Yeah, ping everyone. Very clever. Worth all that money after all.

[Guest]

 

[efcfanwirral]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Yeah, ping everyone. Very clever. Worth all that money after all.

Haha the app is probably what will keep all this as a bit of a disaster instead of an apocalyptic one 

[vardyvarvar]

52 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

it's all getting a bit silly already. Country will be at a standstill in a week or two 

Don’t need a new lockdown if the whole country has been pinged 😀

[Ryan1984]

Are we sure that Javid has genuinely contracted the virus? You wouldn’t put it past this lot to come up with a scare story to show how ‘anyone can get it’.

Obviously if genuine, I hope he makes a full recovery.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Are we sure that Javid has genuinely contracted the virus? You wouldn’t put it past this lot to come up with a scare story to show how ‘anyone can get it’.

Obviously if genuine, I hope he makes a full recovery.

we can never be sure...but I expect he has. Too risky for them to lie about this and get found out.

[Guest]

Reporting in from Brighton, it’s a busy day in the city but we have been able to get a walk in after our initial booking.

[stuartbert two hats]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

we can never be sure...but I expect he has. Too risky for them to lie about this and get found out.

It's not like it's a rare virus at the moment.

[BobWillis2]

Didn’t take a genius to work that out. Should have been IIR masks minimum and it might have actually made a big enough difference. 
 

[steviewevie]

 

[Matt42]

3 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Political disaster at this point surely ?  But with the next election so far away will they care ?

After Kiers car crash yesterday they can do anything. 

[efcfanwirral]

 

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Love that- I suppose technically you could argue he advised sage by writing a paper that they read but it's certainly pushing the boundaries of the term 😂

Edited July 17, 2021 by efcfanwirral

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

Love that- I suppose technically you could argue he advised sage by writing a paper that they read but it's certainly pushing the boundaries of the term 😂

It’s unsurprising that PFA have jumped on it without reading into any of the detail. 

[efcfanwirral]

Just now, Ozanne said:

It’s unsurprising that PFA have jumped on it without reading into any of the detail. 

I'm more than happy with them as an aggregator just because you see articles from different places. Trust them as much as I do any of the actual media outlets 😂

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

Love that- I suppose technically you could argue he advised sage by writing a paper that they read but it's certainly pushing the boundaries of the term 😂

he works as a dr of mechanical engineering and his expertise is in energy use or something. He was also against some of the lockdown social distancing stuff, and writes a lot in the spectator etc. No doubt he's very clever, and cloth masks won't be as good as the surgical ones, but there are many different opinions out there on their effectiveness, and his is one opinion.

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

It’s unsurprising that PFA have jumped on it without reading into any of the detail. 

they just quote the telegraph article...it's the telegraph that is being misleading.

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

It’s unsurprising that PFA have jumped on it without reading into any of the detail. 

actually PFA twisted the words even more, to just SAGE adviser.

Anyway, maybe cloth ones are useless, I don't know...but consensus is still any mask is better than nothing, even if they work a tiny bit can make a big difference overall.

[steviewevie]

another from PFA...

 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

I'm more than happy with them as an aggregator just because you see articles from different places. Trust them as much as I do any of the actual media outlets 😂

Its not that, it’s that they never read into what they are sharing and it’s often disproved after the fact. 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Its not that, it’s that they never read into what they are sharing and it’s often disproved after the fact. 

well, they don't call themselves impartial anymore after being outed as a tory brexit boy.

[efcfanwirral]

8 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Its not that, it’s that they never read into what they are sharing and it’s often disproved after the fact. 

I guess those who take what they say would be fooled by it. All good for those of us who read the articles and make our own interpretation though! 

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

I guess those who take what they say would be fooled by it. All good for those of us who read the articles and make our own interpretation though! 

Well, article behind telegraph paywall, and no way I'm paying to read their bile.

[efcfanwirral]

16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Well, article behind telegraph paywall, and no way I'm paying to read their bile.

There are ways 🙂 - if you're technically minded then source code 

On an unrelated note. If you ever want to save a Web page for posterity, a website called archive .is is pretty good for such purposes. No other uses for it of course...