2020 headliners

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

Rammstein would certainly blow the camper chairs away

[Matt42]

16 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

Rammstein would certainly blow the camper chairs away

It’s absolutely not happening.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

21 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

Rammstein would certainly blow the camper chairs away

There'd be more tumbleweed for them to blow away than camper chairs.

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

3 minutes ago, Rose-Colored Boy said:

There'd be more tumbleweed for them to blow away than camper chairs.

That's what they said about Stormzy, Jay-Z, Metallica, Mumford n Sons, Kasabian...  

[Matt42]

7 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

That's what they said about Stormzy, Jay-Z, Metallica, Mumford n Sons, Kasabian...  

I mean not really but ok. 

Metallica and Rammstein are not at all comparable. At least with Metallica there was a slight bit of crossover to the mainstream (also the fact that they are probably one of the only meal bands that the radio 1 crowd would pay attention to).

Rammstein while being spectacle just would never be booked. They would never be in a position where they feel the need to book Rammstein either. 

Edited July 8, 2019 by Matt42

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

11 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

I mean not really but ok. 

Metallica and Rammstein are not at all comparable. At least with Metallica there was a slight bit of crossover to the mainstream (also the fact that they are probably one of the only meal bands that the radio 1 crowd would pay attention to).

Rammstein while being spectacle just would never be booked. They would never be in a position where they felt the need to book Rammstein either. 

There were definitely several naysayers for all of those acts. I'm surprised you don't remember the fuss surrounding Jay-Z and Metallica. Even people on this forum were up in arms about it. Rammstein would be an edgy booking if the festival had any real conviction when they talk about "breaking new ground", and there would be a pretty sizeable crowd if they did decide to go down that route - it's not all about Radio One, they do not call the shots and never have done. I don't think it's likely, but Rammstein would smash it if they were asked. 

Edited July 8, 2019 by MEGATRONICMEATWAGON

[balti-pie]

Rammstein on the Truth stage, if we’re going all dreamsy about it ?????????

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

10 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

Rammstein on the Truth stage, if we’re going all dreamsy about it ?????????

If you can't dream about Glastonbury what can you 

[Matt42]

9 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

There were definitely several naysayers for all of those acts. I'm surprised you don't remember the fuss surrounding Jay-Z and Metallica. Even people on this forum were up in arms about it. Rammstein would be an edgy booking if the festival had any real conviction when they talk about "breaking new ground", and there would be a pretty sizeable crowd if they did decide to go down that route - it's not all about Radio One, they do not call the shots and never have done. I don't think it's likely, but Rammstein would smash it if they were asked. 

The naysaying is a bit different in those cases though. The backlash to the Jay Z booking (partially) was founded on Glastonbury booking something other than a rock band.

Metallica I agree was a strange booking. However, there is more to justify the booking than Rammstein. Metallica have grown (almost) beyond their metal roots and became a household name even in places where metal music is ignored. Plus, Metallica haven’t dwindled in size at all and are still a mega ticket shifter festival headline booking. 

Outside of their own community a lot of people simply would not know who Rammstein are. Plus anyone who is on the fence would only be wowed by pyrotechnics as the language barrier would surely put a lot of people off. They work at download because thats still within their stomping ground.

I don’t doubt that if they played they would smash it but there’s no space for them at the festival. They wouldn’t be booked as a pyramid headliner and any lower slot would see a cut to their stage show (which would... let’s be honest) be a major selling factor to anyone who hasn’t heard of them.

They’d also be the biggest other stage headliner (in terms of international size) that Glastonbury has ever had. Unless the other stage is now going to start staging major headlining bands.

Rammstein are in the basket along with NIN, Tool, Iron Maiden, System of a Down. would probably put on a great set but unless something major happens to Glastonbury’s booking policy it’s not going to happen.

[Quark]

14 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

Rammstein on the Truth stage, if we’re going all dreamsy about it ?????????

Never. That would be beyond the realms of sensible capacity. 

Headlining the Other on the other hand..

[FloorFiller]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

Rammstein are in the basket along with NIN, Tool, Iron Maiden, System of a Down. would probably put on a great set but unless something major happens to Glastonbury’s booking policy it’s not going to happen.

NIN don't really fit in with that lot as 1. They've already played Glastonbury/headlined Other 2. They're still about the same size as they were back then and aren't out and out festival headliners and 3. They don't fall directly in to the metal bracket and also have an electronic element to them that would fit in with the Other's usual headline bookings. Still don't think it's gonna happen unfortunately, but unlike the others they're not completely out of the realms of possibility, and if one of them or the festival wanted it to happen I'm sure a conversation could be had.

[Hugh Jass]

1 hour ago, djdavejohnson said:

A secret set could well be it for them - although I suspect that would be carnage if word got out.

The stampede to get away from him could be deadly.

Edited July 8, 2019 by Hugh Jass

[CaledonianGonzo]

2 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

NIN don't really fit in with that lot as 1. They've already played Glastonbury/headlined Other 2. They're still about the same size as they were back then and aren't out and out festival headliners and 3. They don't fall directly in to the metal bracket and also have an electronic element to them that would fit in with the Other's usual headline bookings. Still don't think it's gonna happen unfortunately, but unlike the others they're not completely out of the realms of possibility, and if one of them or the festival wanted it to happen I'm sure a conversation could be had.

For one thing NIN have had hit singles in the UK.

[Matt42]

5 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

NIN don't really fit in with that lot as 1. They've already played Glastonbury/headlined Other 2. They're still about the same size as they were back then and aren't out and out festival headliners and 3. They don't fall directly in to the metal bracket and also have an electronic element to them that would fit in with the Other's usual headline bookings. Still don't think it's gonna happen unfortunately, but unlike the others they're not completely out of the realms of possibility, and if one of them or the festival wanted it to happen I'm sure a conversation could be had.

What in the Mandela effect! When have NIN played Glastonbury?

EDIT: News to me that NIN did it in 2000. Learn something new every day 

Edited July 8, 2019 by Matt42

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

3 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

The naysaying is a bit different in those cases though. The backlash to the Jay Z booking (partially) was founded on Glastonbury booking something other than a rock band.

Metallica I agree was a strange booking. However, there is more to justify the booking than Rammstein. Metallica have grown (almost) beyond their metal roots and became a household name even in places where metal music is ignored. Plus, Metallica haven’t dwindled in size at all and are still a mega ticket shifter festival headline booking. 

Outside of their own community a lot of people simply would not know who Rammstein are. Plus anyone who is on the fence would only be wowed by pyrotechnics as the language barrier would surely put a lot of people off. They work at download because thats still within their stomping ground.

I don’t doubt that if they played they would smash it but there’s no space for them at the festival. They wouldn’t be booked as a pyramid headliner and any lower slot would see a cut to their stage show (which would... let’s be honest) be a major selling factor to anyone who hasn’t heard of them.

They’d also be the biggest other stage headliner (in terms of international size) that Glastonbury has ever had. Unless the other stage is now going to start staging major headlining bands.

Rammstein are in the basket along with NIN, Tool, Iron Maiden, System of a Down. would probably put on a great set but unless something major happens to Glastonbury’s booking policy it’s not going to happen.

Yeah, was just a flippant joke comment really about the daytime chair sitters, didn't mean to get into a big discussion tbh  

I don't think they'd actually get booked either, but I still think if the festival wanted to, they could mix it up and do what they wanted, rather than listen to all the people who thought that rap didn't belong, grime didn't belong, and metal didn't belong in respect to the names I mentioned before. Still a dream at this moment still unfortunately 

[Mouseboy11]

I imagine Rammstein would have as much interest in playing Glastonbury as Glastonbury would have booking them.

Haven’t they always been said to not like it over here much? 

[FloorFiller]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

What in the Mandela effect! When have NIN played Glastonbury?

How come I never knew they did it? I thought they were always considered one that should do it!

Played in 2000 (opposite current Other mainstays Chemical Brothers on the Pyramid funnily enough), and that was back when they and their shows were significantly more 'metal' than they are these days. There's not much reason for them to be booked again these days other than that it would be a great booking, especially now that Glastonbury is embracing the heavy side of music a little more post-Metallica. We're probably not ever gonna get another metal Pyramid headliner, but there's a pretty perfect Other headliner right there if they fancy going down that route again. 

[balti-pie]

11 minutes ago, Mouseboy11 said:

I imagine Rammstein would have as much interest in playing Glastonbury as Glastonbury would have booking them.

Haven’t they always been said to not like it over here much? 

They much prefer their own gigs than festivals, cos of the time and effort it takes to organise and insert all the pyro/stage set up/massive cum cannon/cooking pot ?? they’re not very talky on stage whether in English (hardly at all, ever) or in German (you might get a Guten tag!). I think if they were offered a spot - and as the Other headliner, I agree, would be the only way it could realistically happen - then they’d consider it. They do like doing different things: they’ve headlined Madison Square Gardens as a German industrial metal band tbf, they’re well used to breaking down metaphorical barriers! 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Just now, balti-pie said:

massive cum cannon/cooking pot

Are these separate items or two parts of the same arrangement?

[balti-pie]

Two separate bits of theatrical entertainment, tbf - the cum cannon is ridden by Till, the lead singer, and fires foam into the front ten rows of the crowd. 

The cooking pot is used to heat up the keyboard player ?? It’s all very stupid, and magnificently entertaining 

[CaledonianGonzo]

We love to see a band who boil up a big cauldron of jizz onstage, don't we folks.

[djdavejohnson]

30 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

The stampede to get away from him could be deadly.

Haha yes maybe for some, but lots do seem to lap it up! I admittedly liked their last booking, but only because I hadn't seen them the previous times. Having said that, if they were booked again, I likely wouldn't seem them, and I'm a fan I guess.

Surely a 5th time isn't on the cards?!

[CaledonianGonzo]

Chris Martin would be welcomed back wirh opem arms if he rode around on a giant cum cannon while singing  Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall.

[Quark]

1 hour ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

That's what they said about Stormzy, Jay-Z, Metallica, Mumford n Sons, Kasabian...  

They were bloody right about Mumford as well 

7 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Chris Martin would be welcomed back wirh opem arms if he rode around on a giant cum cannon while singing  Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall.

I'd watch it.

I saw Rammstein at Download, and they are massively entertaining 

[FloorFiller]

15 minutes ago, djdavejohnson said:

Surely a 5th time isn't on the cards?!

Now that The Cure have levelled Coldplay's four time headliner achievement I'm sure Martin+co will want to return to take back their crown.

Plus, they're an incredibly easy booking for the festival and one that always goes down very well. They'll return every five or so years until they or the festival are kaputt or fall on bad terms I imagine.