Bluebeth Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, DownlnAlbion said: Love Bullets was a nightmare with those stupid nos canisters. I was in there on Friday night and you couldn't move without standing on them. Bunch of lads doing those in the bar on Williams Green then just left all the canisters under the table. There could be more bins at Williams Green than anywhere else on site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber Soldier Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) Thought there was less litter overall this year. Every set of bins was piled high with rubbish, which isn't the nicest to look at, but it's definitely preferable to being strewn over the site. Personally I made a real effort this year, crushed my cans down, stuck them in my bag until near a bin, never even dropped any cig ends. All our rubbish at the tent was bagged. Felt good and didn't feel like any extra effort. Edited July 1, 2017 by Rubber Soldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie_and_a_pint Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 5 hours ago, giantkatestacks said: Just arriving to the Pyramid at 6 every day you can see it is just less messy than previous years, less big items left behind. We were always waiting for a post-Beyonce level of pick (the horror) but it just didnt happen. When we were sent around the site only the area around Love bullets was particularly bad. I think theres an obvious correlation between litter and how fked people are, the Pyramid just didn't attract it this year and we weren't sent on long walks to help other teams out that much either. @pie_and_a_pint what did you think? Definitely less rubbish to pick up this year, and more of it was 'easy' stuff like cans and cups, rather than nos, fag ends etc. Beat Hotel was no better, but obviously its clientele is rather more focussed on getting off its collective tits than picking up it's rubbish, but John Peel was, and The Wood was virtually spotless. No camping chairs abandoned either! We got taken over to help at Other one morning, because the amount of mess left by Stormzy's crowd was worse than usual. It speaks volumes that a predominately younger crowd left more litter, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex DeLarge Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, pie_and_a_pint said: It speaks volumes that a predominately younger crowd left more litter, I think. Congratulations on being able to re-enforce your stereotypes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie_and_a_pint Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said: Congratulations on being able to re-enforce your stereotypes. Thanks. I can only speak as I find. The litter left after Stormzy was an utter disgrace and took three full litterpicking teams to clear up. Edited July 1, 2017 by pie_and_a_pint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex DeLarge Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, pie_and_a_pint said: Thanks. I can only speak as I find. The litter left after Stormzy was an utter disgrace and took three full litterpicking teams to clear up. Do the teams clean up after each individual act? Wondering how you can blame the young people at Stormzy if there was still litter left behind after Liam Gallagher etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Perhaps the lack of litter is partly down to the "pack light" message as there's going to be extra searches at the gates - so loads of people (me included) took just what they needed so any searches would be quicker and less of a PITA.... I've never managed to fit everything I've needed into a 55L rucksack and an Aldi bag before! I always take my stuff home and bin my rubbish - but even my pitch clearing black-sack wasn't even half full this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, pie_and_a_pint said: Definitely less rubbish to pick up this year, and more of it was 'easy' stuff like cans and cups, rather than nos, fag ends etc. Beat Hotel was no better, but obviously its clientele is rather more focussed on getting off its collective tits than picking up it's rubbish, but John Peel was, and The Wood was virtually spotless. No camping chairs abandoned either! We got taken over to help at Other one morning, because the amount of mess left by Stormzy's crowd was worse than usual. It speaks volumes that a predominately younger crowd left more litter, I think. I wonder how much of that is down to those inflatables that you "blow up" by wafting about. Saw loads of those this year, they looked good too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazednconfused Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Just seen this and am rather speechless, seeing we're banging on about Glasto spirit the entire time. People on the litter crew - is there truth to it? Anyone know? http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/hundreds-of-european-workers-fired-two-days-into-glastonbury-clean-up-a7818571.html?amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaf Nobby Burton Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: I wonder how much of that is down to those inflatables that you "blow up" by wafting about. Saw loads of those this year, they looked good too! I saw somebody trying to inflate one on Friday Morning at the pyramid, I should have videoed it, it must've taken them about 10 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber Soldier Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, dazednconfused said: Just seen this and am rather speechless, seeing we're banging on about Glasto spirit the entire time. People on the litter crew - is there truth to it? Anyone know? http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/hundreds-of-european-workers-fired-two-days-into-glastonbury-clean-up-a7818571.html?amp I very much doubt they were signed to zero hours contracts and were guaranteed two weeks work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wonderwhy Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 34 minutes ago, dazednconfused said: Just seen this and am rather speechless, seeing we're banging on about Glasto spirit the entire time. People on the litter crew - is there truth to it? Anyone know? http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/hundreds-of-european-workers-fired-two-days-into-glastonbury-clean-up-a7818571.html?amp Seems a bit daft to lampoon Corbyn so heavily given he's got absolutely naff all to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UEF Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 minute ago, MattDavies__ said: Seems a bit daft to lampoon Corbyn so heavily given he's got absolutely naff all to do with it I think they're making the link as the festival invited a speaker who was against exploiting EU workers on ZHC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanBelfast Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Great news on the clean up. 1st Glasto for me so nothing to compare with. But I was very impressed with how most people kept things tidy. Never 100%, but much better than I've see anywhere else. Loads of over flowing bins. Which at least shows people are trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wonderwhy Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, UEF said: I think they're making the link as the festival invited a speaker who was against exploiting EU workers on ZHC... Yeah I get that. He's still got nothing to do with how the festival runs its clean up operation so to feature him so heavily (and negatively) in the article is a cheap shot. Especially given they're not exactly short of things to criticise him for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verrymerry Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 44 minutes ago, dazednconfused said: Just seen this and am rather speechless, seeing we're banging on about Glasto spirit the entire time. People on the litter crew - is there truth to it? Anyone know? http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/hundreds-of-european-workers-fired-two-days-into-glastonbury-clean-up-a7818571.html?amp I had no idea people actually travelled from Europe to work on the farm, I guess I assumed it was people already at the festival. On the one hand it's great they're not having to pay as much, more money can go to charity, but if they were told it was 2 weeks work that's tricky. I understand (sort of) why it was a zero hours contract as you can't guarantee the work, but maybe it should have been a guaranteed number of hours per day with a clause to say the end date depended on the work getting done. Tricky one really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Tequila Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 43 minutes ago, dazednconfused said: Just seen this and am rather speechless, seeing we're banging on about Glasto spirit the entire time. People on the litter crew - is there truth to it? Anyone know? http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/hundreds-of-european-workers-fired-two-days-into-glastonbury-clean-up-a7818571.html?amp The treatment of the post festival litter pickera has been poor for years. They lay people off with no notice throughout the cleanup and have done for years. This is not the festival but is down to those organising the cleanup whom I have little time for personally although maybe there are others on here that know more than me but this suggests not much has changed. The only thing this year is a large number were laid off after two days rather than a few every few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonodillieono Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 The independent is the nations 3rd worst paper after the mail and sun. The fields are clean, what do you expect Glastonbury to do? Pay the workers for another week to just sit around doing fuck all? If it was a 2 week clean up job they'd be complaining about how anti-green Glastonbury is with all the rubbish left behind but now because there's not as much rubbish they're complaining about the litter pickers not having a job to do. Absolute travesty of a media outlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, jonodillieono said: The independent is the nations 3rd worst paper after the mail and sun. The fields are clean, what do you expect Glastonbury to do? Pay the workers for another week to just sit around doing fuck all? If it was a 2 week clean up job they'd be complaining about how anti-green Glastonbury is with all the rubbish left behind but now because there's not as much rubbish they're complaining about the litter pickers not having a job to do. Absolute travesty of a media outlet You forgot The Express. The paper for those who find The Mail too nuenced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie_and_a_pint Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, stuartbert two hats said: I wonder how much of that is down to those inflatables that you "blow up" by wafting about. Saw loads of those this year, they looked good too! They looked really comfy - although I did see one chap rendered completely incapable because he got stuck, couldn't get up, got the giggles, and that made it worse. It was hilarious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migraine Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: You forgot The Express. The paper for those who find The Mail too nuenced. The Express would have found some weather and Diana based slant to go with the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdusty surfer Posted July 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, dazednconfused said: Just seen this and am rather speechless, seeing we're banging on about Glasto spirit the entire time. People on the litter crew - is there truth to it? Anyone know? http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/hundreds-of-european-workers-fired-two-days-into-glastonbury-clean-up-a7818571.html?amp Pickers arrived (many from eastern europe) expecting 10 days work or more. They got 2 or 3 days. The festival should have bunged the 500 laid off workers a £100 thank you bonus each. Happy workers and excellent publicity for the festival... only costing £50k A drop in the ocean for the festival especially with the amount saved this year on the clean up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migraine Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 minute ago, pie_and_a_pint said: They looked really comfy - although I did see one chap rendered completely incapable because he got stuck, couldn't get up, got the giggles, and that made it worse. It was hilarious! They are ridiculously comfortable however there is no way to stylishly inflate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Tequila Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sawdusty Surfer said: Pickers arrived (many from eastern europe) expecting 10 days work or more. They got 2 or 3 days. The festival should have bunged the 500 laid off workers a £100 thank you bonus each. Happy workers and excellent publicity for the festival... only costing £50k A drop in the ocean for the festival especially with the amount saved this year on the clean up. Agree. Lots of workers laid off who were part of the build as well who expected at least ten days work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazednconfused Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, Sawdusty Surfer said: Pickers arrived (many from eastern europe) expecting 10 days work or more. They got 2 or 3 days. The festival should have bunged the 500 laid off workers a £100 thank you bonus each. Happy workers and excellent publicity for the festival... only costing £50k A drop in the ocean for the festival especially with the amount saved this year on the clean up. Ta for the clarification. Had no idea people would travel that far for such a short stint of work to be fair. Zero hour contracts for this kind of work are obvious. Nevertheless, that isn't a carte blanche to treat people shit. Wouldn't be hard to set the right expectations. Fully with Sawdusty Surfer, it is incredibly easy to let people off content and happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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