pink_triangle Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 hours ago, TheGayTent said: Sullivan got what he wanted, ref had a shocker, though not as bad as 9 of our players, and Masuaku shouldn't wear the shirt ever again. Only positive - Wigan beer prices. To me that was about as much a nailed on shock as you could get. I didn't look at the odds but suspect the bookies agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 But....but.... hes an eccentric likeable German... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Well that was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted January 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 hours ago, pink_triangle said: To me that was about as much a nailed on shock as you could get. I didn't look at the odds but suspect the bookies agreed Didn't take a genius did it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomThomDrum Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, The Nal said: But....but.... hes an eccentric likeable German... You would have loved him at Utd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjsell Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Yeah, give me Klopp over Mourinho any day. As an Arsenal fan I was gutted when Klopp went to Liverpool - he was the one that I was hoping would replace Wenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Fair dues West Brom. Played great. Even a late draw wouldnt have been fair. Manyoo fans slagging Klopp? Plus ça change. Will always prefer him to the meff in yer dugout. btw Neil / Emre is gash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Wooderson said: btw Neil / Emre is gash. yep, he was defo gash yesterday ... as seen before (tho no too much too recently) he can be too slow, and too confident in his ability to hold off another player. People ask what Hendo brings, but I think he showed the difference when he came on. --- So who's a fan of VAR then? What do you think is more important, always having the right decision along with regular snoozes, or having a game of football? Edited January 28, 2018 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, eFestivals said: yep, he was defo gash yesterday ... as seen before (tho no too much too recently) he can be too slow, and too confident in his ability to hold off another player. People ask what Hendo brings, but I think he showed the difference when he came on. --- So who's a fan of VAR then? What do you think is more important, always having the right decision along with regular snoozes, or having a game of football? VAR is fine. Matches stopping for a min or 2 isnt the end of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, zahidf said: VAR is fine. Matches stopping for a min or 2 isnt the end of the world. VAR is for w*nkers, who think football should or can be perfect. It's a game. The clue is in the word. Every suspect decision will stop the game, and as last night proved it's not for a minute or two. It's like giving the ref-surrounding w*nkers at Chelsea a final victory. If VAR had existed since the dawn of football, football anything like we know it wouldn't exist. It would not be a game that tens of thousands of fans attend for excitement. Edited January 28, 2018 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Video assisted technology is great for tennis or cricket with natural breaks. If used in football it should be used for matter of fact like the ball crossing the line or mistaken identity. It shouldn't be used on subjective decisions about fouls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Can any of the Scottish contingent give me an opinion on David Raven who we have signed from Inverness. He was always a solid league 2ish standard player before he went to Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted January 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: Video assisted technology is great for tennis or cricket with natural breaks. If used in football it should be used for matter of fact like the ball crossing the line or mistaken identity. It shouldn't be used on subjective decisions about fouls. Much of its use in cricket is shit too. It often doesn't assist in catches at all, and until the technology is more accurate the whole umpires call bollocks is exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 37 minutes ago, eFestivals said: VAR is for w*nkers, who think football should or can be perfect. It's a game. The clue is in the word. Every suspect decision will stop the game, and as last night proved it's not for a minute or two. It's like giving the ref-surrounding w*nkers at Chelsea a final victory. If VAR had existed since the dawn of football, football anything like we know it wouldn't exist. It would not be a game that tens of thousands of fans attend for excitement. If fans, managers and pundits didnt jump down referees throats every five seconds over contentious decisions, maybe things would be different? If you are getting death threats for a dodgy penalty decision, then im not suprised youd be in support of VAR to limit the amount of abuse youd get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, zahidf said: If fans, managers and pundits didnt jump down referees throats every five seconds over contentious decisions, maybe things would be different? but now they're just jumping down their throat to review it by VAR. It's changed nothing, apart from the length of time it goes on for - even longer! 36 minutes ago, zahidf said: If you are getting death threats for a dodgy penalty decision, then im not suprised youd be in support of VAR to limit the amount of abuse youd get. So refs don't want to be responsible for giving decisions...? It's fixing nothing. It's just opening up a whole new world of bollocks, while spoiling the game. As far as i can make out the only people who like it are the people who think the rules are what makes the game appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjsell Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 The way VAR is presented and communicated is what needs to change. Refs need to be mic'd up to the broadcast so viewers can here the communication with 'the booth' and screens need to show it to fans in the crowd. A 2 minute break isn't too bad if people see/here the reasoning for the break - but when it's two minutes of Pausen with his finger to his ear looking clueless then you can kiss goodbye to any sort of atmosphere. But it'd be an almighty step for grounds to suddenly start showing things that are being reviewed by var when they still don't show any form of replay that could be considered contentious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Been calling for VAR for years. It needs refining but getting the correct decision is always the most important thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 People need to remember that VAR is brand new and there will be years of trial and refinements before it’s working in a decent way. Personally I’m not a fan, seemed to me last night that the refs were unwilling to give anything themselves, instead relying on the screens. There was one incident where we had about five players offside and the lino was unwilling to put his flag up. This is just the start of a very long road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 hours ago, WS_Jack_III said: Been calling for VAR for years. It needs refining but getting the correct decision is always the most important thing. I disagree, there are loads of decisions made in a football game. Many are incorrect and have no consequence. If your aiming for perfection you ruin the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 hours ago, pink_triangle said: I disagree, there are loads of decisions made in a football game. Many are incorrect and have no consequence. If your aiming for perfection you ruin the game. Surely the incorrect decisions are the ones that ruin the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, WS_Jack_III said: Surely the incorrect decisions are the ones that ruin the games. People only remember the incorrect decisions that have consequences. The majority of mistakes don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 8 hours ago, WS_Jack_III said: Been calling for VAR for years. It needs refining but getting the correct decision is always the most important thing. I disagree. Not spoiling the game called football is the most important thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, WS_Jack_III said: Surely the incorrect decisions are the ones that ruin the games. Nope, they're what create the talking points which make the game interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 I have no problem with automated technology (has the ball crossed the line, and potentially offside), but the ref wasting time in a game to check a decision ruins the flow of the game. Fuck video technology, particularly regarding any issues which involve potentially different interpretations of the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Agree to disagree with you all, I'd rather see the game fair than having to talk about how my team (or any team) was cheated of a point/all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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