VCK Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 16 hours ago, Steve1000 said: Weird to think so recently we had SOAD and NIN subbing in the same year. That would just never happen anymore. Or someone like The Cure headlining, or Limp Bizkit, Cypress Hill and Weezer all playing back to back. And then something like NIN subbing Smashing Pumpkins like in 2007 would definitely never happen in this day and age. It's also weird to think that Muse and Eminem have been releasing music for a longer period than when Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins were when they headlined in the mid '00s, yet the latter two seemed much more longer established and more "vintage" than Muse and Eminem do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odessa Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, VCK said: Or someone like The Cure headlining, or Limp Bizkit, Cypress Hill and Weezer all playing back to back. And then something like NIN subbing Smashing Pumpkins like in 2007 would definitely never happen in this day and age. It's also weird to think that Muse and Eminem have been releasing music for a longer period than when Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins were when they headlined in the mid '00s, yet the latter two seemed much more longer established and more "vintage" than Muse and Eminem do now. I'm not sure about vintage but Muse and Eminem absolutely seem very long established to me, especially the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1000 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, VCK said: Or someone like The Cure headlining, or Limp Bizkit, Cypress Hill and Weezer all playing back to back. And then something like NIN subbing Smashing Pumpkins like in 2007 would definitely never happen in this day and age. It's also weird to think that Muse and Eminem have been releasing music for a longer period than when Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins were when they headlined in the mid '00s, yet the latter two seemed much more longer established and more "vintage" than Muse and Eminem do now. '14 was the turning point for sure, although ATDI into Korn is a pleasant surprise. I'd say whenever Muse or Eminem release new material it will always get a shite load of airplay, whereas Pearl Jams relevance died with the whole grunge scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCK Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, Odessa said: I'm not sure about vintage but Muse and Eminem absolutely seem very long established to me, especially the latter. Maybe it's because they're still "current", whereas Pearl Jam and the Pumpkins are almost completely defined by their early-mid 90s work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCK Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, Steve1000 said: '14 was the turning point for sure, although ATDI into Korn is a pleasant surprise. I'd say whenever Muse or Eminem release new material it will always get a shite load of airplay, whereas Pearl Jams relevance died with the whole grunge scene. Yeah, I'd say the 2014 line up was the point where the festival really began to focus heavily on music that was currently popular. Not to say that this hasn't been mostly the case, even with the classic '90s and early '00s line ups, but I do think a couple more well established acts in higher main stage slots would really make a difference to the strength of a line-up. Madness being booked for a Main Stage slot is something else that just won't happen these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, VCK said: Yeah, I'd say the 2014 line up was the point where the festival really began to focus heavily on music that was currently popular. Not to say that this hasn't been mostly the case, even with the classic '90s and early '00s line ups, but I do think a couple more well established acts in higher main stage slots would really make a difference to the strength of a line-up. Madness being booked for a Main Stage slot is something else that just won't happen these days. The thing is, if Madness did get booked it'd go down a storm IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCK Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, KingPin said: The thing is, if Madness did get booked it'd go down a storm IMO. That could apply to a lot of acts really. Having Korn and ATDI in high main stage slots is a step in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1000 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, KingPin said: The thing is, if Madness did get booked it'd go down a storm IMO. Doubt it, might get a big crowd but they would all be fucking bored until 'our house' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rylbld9 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Might've already been posted but there's a survey going around from the festival and it seems to show the pool of artists they'd consider headline material, as well as a few names they could be looking at for 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1000 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 On 02/07/2017 at 7:25 PM, Will-2609 said: Paramore at BST, BMTH at Download, Kendrick at Wireless. The timings so perfect for Kendrick tho, if not now then when will they ever get a non-Eminem rapper to headline? Wireless can have ASAP Rocky / Stormzy / Major Lazed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odessa Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I think Royal Blood and Kendrick Lamar in the same year would look a bit weak to some. And it would be a big pair of coheadliners so can't see that either although it's not impossible. I feel like it's one or the other despite them being completely different acts, and RB are a lot more likely. Kendrick at Wireless makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1000 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Odessa said: I think Royal Blood and Kendrick Lamar in the same year would look a bit weak to some. And it would be a big pair of coheadliners so can't see that either although it's not impossible. I feel like it's one or the other despite them being completely different acts, and RB are a lot more likely. Kendrick at Wireless makes sense. They're not that weak though, and with an Arctics or Foos and a decent enough undercard would make it not shite, certainly better than '15. Hopefully this year sells awfully and they learn their lesson. I expect RB to co-head since they really don't need the longer set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odessa Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, Steve1000 said: They're not that weak though, and with an Arctics or Foos and a decent enough undercard would make it not shite, certainly better than '15. Hopefully this year sells awfully and they learn their lesson. I expect RB to co-head since they really don't need the longer set I'd be happy to see it happen, don't get me wrong. I just think they'll go for one new headliner rather than two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymooz Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Especially given the situation next year with so many big acts around and no glasto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gozpot Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Rylbld9 said: Might've already been posted but there's a survey going around from the festival and it seems to show the pool of artists they'd consider headline material, as well as a few names they could be looking at for 2018. Surprised that they put Tool on the list of potential headliners, doubt most R&L goers nowadays would have heard of them, let alone be able to name some songs, a lot of the crowd will have been 5/6 when they last released any music so it's understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCK Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Tool subbing, now there's a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1000 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, VCK said: Tool subbing, now there's a thought. A thought that will never come to fruition wierd that Tool and Rammstein get their thumbs up, yet not SOAD / A7X / Linkin Park 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum97 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Feeling that it will be something similar to the bellow, probably completely wrong though. Still think Royal Blood will Sub or Co headline max. Paramore // Foos // Arctic Monkeys Paramore w/ BMTH // Foos // QOTSA Paramore // Foos // Killers Killers // Arctic Monkeys // Foos 30stm, Royal Blood, and catfish to sub. Still think SOAD and Prophets of Rage could be possible to sub. (one can hope.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinaski_ Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 On 04/07/2017 at 6:18 PM, Rylbld9 said: Might've already been posted but there's a survey going around from the festival and it seems to show the pool of artists they'd consider headline material, as well as a few names they could be looking at for 2018. Why is the second one so shit and predictable yet the first one has a couple of decent leftfield names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymooz Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Chinaski_ said: Why is the second one so shit and predictable yet the first one has a couple of decent leftfield names? Lorde was kinda surpising to see in that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum97 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 was surprised to see Slipknot, Iron Maiden, Tool and Rammstein on that list. Would be a dream if they were ever booked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, callum97 said: was surprised to see Slipknot, Iron Maiden, Tool and Rammstein on that list. Would be a dream if they were ever booked. I think that Slipknot are the only ones that could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum97 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Andre91 said: I think that Slipknot are the only ones that could happen. Would love for that to happen, but I can't see it happening in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) On 04/07/2017 at 5:37 PM, VCK said: Yeah, I'd say the 2014 line up was the point where the festival really began to focus heavily on music that was currently popular. Liam Gallagher is subbing this year On 04/07/2017 at 9:37 PM, Steve1000 said: Hopefully this year sells awfully and they learn their lesson. Yeah would be interesting to know how the non-Eminem day tickets and weekend tickets are selling this year. Eminem day is very ordinary, to the extent the booking team would probably have got fired for it four/five years ago, but at least there are some hype acts like Migos and Glass Animals on the undercard. The barren wastelands of the Kasabian and Muse undercards are still shocking to me, even after all this time. Edited July 6, 2017 by Zac Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1000 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Zac Quinn said: Liam Gallagher is subbing this year Yeah would be interesting to know how the non-Eminem day tickets and weekend tickets are selling this year. Eminem day is very ordinary, to the extent the booking team would probably have got fired for it four/five years ago, but at least there are some hype acts like Migos and Glass Animals on the undercard. The barren wastelands of the Kasabian and Muse undercards are still shocking to me, even after all this time. Yeah but Liam's mainstream af. I think the Eminem days decent enough, Korn and ATDIs good, major lazors a pretty big sub, then as you say current hype acts. Also Frank and Marmozets in the tent. The other days though are abhorrent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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