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[FloorFiller]

if it does end up being Kendrick i assume he'll be announced with the full lineup rather than being held back and kept as a Special Guest until he walks out on stage like The Libertines last year, whereas with Radiohead or somebody of headliner proportions it could go either way. he's a big act but i can imagine if kept secret his big reveal would be met with a lot of 'oh...' from people in the crowd expecting more

[jparx]

I definitely think Kendrick could headline next year. He'd be on the small side for a headliner, sure, but I don't think the headliners should always be some mega act. In the long term, festivals in general need to give more 'smaller' acts a chance to jump to that next level. You can't keep booking Muse as a headliner every 4 years, eventually you need to take a chance on acts and give them the shot.

Florence (granted she's had more success in the UK) benefited hugely from headlining last year, and will definitely be a headliner when she returns. They could do the same for Kendrick, and it will ultimately benefit them in the long run. If they give him the headline spot next year, he may end up being very grateful to the festival that gave him his first major UK headline slot, and therefore be more inclined to headline again down the line, perhaps for less money than the average headliner. 

Look at Radiohead, Muse and Coldplay. Glastonbury gave them their big moment and now they are willing to come back and play, and play for a lower fee than others. 

[jparx]

Anyway, we've well and truly veered off from the topic of the thread 

[McCor]

Tonight??? I have a good feeling. But I'm probably wrong.

[Mash011]

I'd imagine based on Emily's statements this year about not having big secret sets on main stages that whoever it is will be announced in some capacity before the festival. Hopefully that means they'll come with the rest of it, be very frustrating if not.

[big__phil]

Just now, FloorFiller said:

if it does end up being Kendrick i assume he'll be announced with the full lineup rather than being held back and kept as a Special Guest until he walks out on stage like The Libertines last year, whereas with Radiohead or somebody of headliner proportions it could go either way. he's a big act but i can imagine if kept secret his big reveal would be met with a lot of 'oh...' from people in the crowd expecting more

Libs were a bit of a one-off though, with the festival trying to book Foals (who declined) first, then they went to The Libs. I don't know at what point the Libs were actually booked, but it certainly wouldn't have been more than a few days before the fest, if that. They'll be none of that this year, and trying to keep a high profile 'special guests' secret for that amount of time would be very tricky.

[JRhys29]

2 minutes ago, McCor said:

Tonight??? I have a good feeling. But I'm probably wrong.

If it's not tonight then it's next Wednesday. Can't see it being over the bank holiday.

[mufcok]

Do we know at this point if that 'secret' sub slot The Libertines did last year is actually going to be there or are we assuming?..

Edited May 26, 2016 by mufcok

[FloorFiller]

2 minutes ago, McCor said:

Tonight??? I have a good feeling. But I'm probably wrong.

Neil and a couple of other people have heard next Wednesday so i think we're all believing that for now

1 minute ago, big__phil said:

Libs were a bit of a one-off though, with the festival trying to book Foals (who declined) first, then they went to The Libs. I don't know at what point the Libs were actually booked, but it certainly wouldn't have been more than a few days before the fest, if that. They'll be none of that this year, and trying to keep a high profile 'special guests' secret for that amount of time would be very tricky.

which is why announcing whoever it is with the full lineup would make the most sense. even if they don't, there are enough acts names in the air now and we still wouldn't be 100% on who it was until we got definite word from Neil or somebody, or they walked out on stage. although they've managed to keep it secret thus far with the fact that there's an unknown sub being common knowledge to those who bother to do their research

[FloorFiller]

4 minutes ago, mufcok said:

Do we know at this point if that Saturday sub slot The Libertines did last year is actually going to be there or are we assuming?..

assuming, but there doesn't seem to be an act on the already announced lineup who'll fit in as Adele's sub and Neil is having trouble pinning down exactly who it is so it's not a baseless assumption

[kingcrawler]

I doubt it's Glastonbury, think something like supporting the Stone Roses is more likely, but The Enemy seem to be announcing something at 6pm

 

[big__phil]

I thought they were finishing? Last ever gig?

[FloorFiller]

1 minute ago, kingcrawler said:

I doubt it's Glastonbury, think something like supporting the Stone Roses is more likely, but The Enemy seem to be announcing something at 6pm

 

haven't they broken up yet!?

[kingcrawler]

2 minutes ago, big__phil said:

I thought they were finishing? Last ever gig?

 

2 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

haven't they broken up yet!?

I don't think the final tour is until September or something, so still a chance we might be lucky enough to get them at Glastonbury

[paulmuchmore]

25 minutes ago, jparx said:

I definitely think Kendrick could headline next year. He'd be on the small side for a headliner, sure, but I don't think the headliners should always be some mega act. In the long term, festivals in general need to give more 'smaller' acts a chance to jump to that next level. You can't keep booking Muse as a headliner every 4 years, eventually you need to take a chance on acts and give them the shot.

Florence (granted she's had more success in the UK) benefited hugely from headlining last year, and will definitely be a headliner when she returns. They could do the same for Kendrick, and it will ultimately benefit them in the long run. If they give him the headline spot next year, he may end up being very grateful to the festival that gave him his first major UK headline slot, and therefore be more inclined to headline again down the line, perhaps for less money than the average headliner. 

Look at Radiohead, Muse and Coldplay. Glastonbury gave them their big moment and now they are willing to come back and play, and play for a lower fee than others. 

I think Florence was definitely at the size to headline last year, it was a big surprise to many that she was a sub! She then got her shot thanks to Dave's leg and smashed it.

I think, somehow, them being British acts makes a difference over Kendrick, plus the fact they'd played Glastonbury before making the step-up to headliner. Muse had a few albums in the bank before jumping up, Coldplay just the one, but it had been massively successful. For Radiohead it was 1997, and I was just a child at the time so wasn't aware of the festival, but looking at past lineups the headliners of the time were a bit more modest in size generally compared to the expectation of mega-acts today. It was also around the release of OK Computer, which was massive.

The one that I feel Glastonbury really did take a risk on was the Arctic Monkeys. Their first performance was a headline slot.

You can go the other way and look at the smaller acts that have headlined recently, Arcade Fire and Gorillaz to name two, who, from judging the reception on here, went down a bit like lead balloons. If they're not on that mega-level, they need to be ones that are popular with the UK public/worked their way up the festival scene.

So while you could argue that Kendrick deserves a shot, I don't think he'll get it.

Edited May 26, 2016 by paulmuchmore

[JonSnow]

According to clashfinder. 10th down on the John Peel tent on Friday is 'special guests'

Could this be the much anticipated top secret 'The Enemy' slot? 

[jparx]

3 minutes ago, paulmuchmore said:

So while you could argue that Kendrick deserves a shot, I don't think he'll get it.

Well, I definitely agree with you on that  If I was booking the festival, I'd have him there headlining Friday next year. But I can't see it happening until he's released at least one more critically acclaimed album.

[dannygrif]

52 minutes ago, paulmuchmore said:

You can go the other way and look at the smaller acts that have headlined recently, Arcade Fire and Gorillaz to name two, who, from judging the reception on here, went down a bit like lead balloons. If they're not on that mega-level, they need to be ones that are popular with the UK public/worked their way up the festival scene.

So while you could argue that Kendrick deserves a shot, I don't think he'll get it.

I think Gorillaz stepped in for U2 after they dropped out, and I didn't really hear much bad being said about Arcade Fire, but you still make a fair point on the headliners.

I do think it'll be 2018 at least before Kendrick headlines - so long as his next album is as great as what he's released so far.

Edited May 26, 2016 by dannygrif

[TheRedSeat]

49 minutes ago, jparx said:

Well, I definitely agree with you on that  If I was booking the festival, I'd have him there headlining Friday next year. But I can't see it happening until he's released at least one more critically acclaimed album.

I don't think another critically acclaimed album will make a massive difference to most people's view of his headliner chances. I like his stuff but can't think of the last pyramid headliner with so few widely recognisable songs. For want of a better phrase I think you need the 'hits' to not be seen as a bit of a punt

[JRhys29]

2 minutes ago, TheRedSeat said:

I don't think another critically acclaimed album will make a massive difference to most people's view of his headliner chances. I like his stuff but can't think of the last pyramid headliner with so few widely recognisable songs. For want of a better phrase I think you need the 'hits' to not be seen as a bit of a punt

I get what you're saying but surely Arcade Fire aren't a band of huge 'hits'? Out of the two, I'd say Kendrick has more of a mainstream appeal.

[TheRedSeat]

Just now, JRhys29 said:

I get what you're saying but surely Arcade Fire aren't a band of huge 'hits'? Out of the two, I'd say Kendrick has more of a mainstream appeal.

Hits isn't a great choice of word but I would guess Arcade Fire have more stuff where people would go "oh yeah I know this one" plus hip hop rightly or wrongly seems more of a gamble to most. Jay-Z and Kanye had big opposition but they both have songs that enough people will want to hear them play whereas Kendrick is far more niche in that respect which makes it harder  

I'd probably be there if he played but I 100% understand reservations over a headline slot

[Morgs74]

With Neil expecting the big announcement next Weds, I fancy the Beat Hotel announcement tomorrow.

[Festival Liam]

Comparing Kendrick and Arcade fire, I can imagine "The Average person" to be like "Oh yeah I like that Arcade Fire song that was on an advert about waking up" and "I tried Kendrick Lamar and didn't get the fuss/like it, I prefer Kanye or some Jay Z for hip hop". I imagine they sit pretty similarly among these imaginary people. However, Arcade Fire didn't headline until their third album.

I really don't think Kendrick has gained that much traction in the U.K. mainstream. I think sub now might even be slightly pushing it, and headlining next year off two albums is a massive massive push. Putting quality of acts aside somewhat, Mumford and Sons had a much much bigger fan base and them headlining was a stretch on two albums.  

If Glastonbury booked on critical appeal mixed primarily, with popularity secondary, then maybe Kendrick could headline next year. However, it seems booking primarily works the other way around. Kendrick is going to need another album, probably with at least one mainstream hit, to headline yet. 

(for the record I was there and Arcade Fire fucking smashed it, and I really hope Kendrick will be subbing Adele)

[JoeyT]

Just had a thought, bloody hope it doesn't drop tomorrow.

Moving in to my first house with the missus and the internet might not be up and running until the evening...!

 

[RichardWaller]

3 hours ago, JoeyT said:

Yeah I made the mistake of booking the day before I went off a few years back.

That day must have been the longest of my life! It was nice to have a lie in but there was nothing to occupy my mind apart from the festival so it dragged on and on. By the time I went to bed I couldn't sleep as I wasn't tired and I was absolutely bouncing.

Never ever again.

The day after the festival though is 100% necessary to have off. I'm borderline depressed, shaking and emotional. No one deserves to see that so it's a day on the sofa to regain some sort of normality! 

Last time I went I turned up back at work on the Wednesday and I wasn't supposed to be in. Went straight home, probably the most bittersweet moment of my life.

I think I'm gonna have to make myself an itinerary for the Monday. I've been frustratingly crap at lie ins recently. Go to gym, nip to shop, twat about oh here for 15 hours..