guypjfreak Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 ist on at 9pm bbc 4 tonight 2nd would be great to see them at glasto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Yeah, Elvis would be alright too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 You're in for a surprise when you watch that, Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 You're in for a surprise when you watch that, Guy. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 38 year old virgin Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 The doc is absolutely brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Placid Casual Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 You're in for a surprise when you watch that, Guy. Don't spoil the ending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 That bloke who loves Manchester will be along shortly to point out that they're from Manchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guypjfreak Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 ha bloody ha lol on that note ill take myself off to my pitt and see you lot tomo lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael eavis' beard Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 That bloke who loves Manchester will be along shortly to point out that they're from Manchester. Sumner and Hooky are from Salford so he can keep his hands off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltfckimbo Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 It was brilliant, nothing reall new in there, but the whole Factory/Joy Division/Madchester yarn is probably the last great tale in British music. Made me think though, can you imagine a band from this era having such a story to tell in 30 years time? The Libs perhaps, but that's already a decade ago. Christ i love BBC4 on a Friday night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bamber Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Ctrl + v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willutalk Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Couldn't listen to it with high volume as everyone in the house has gone to bed, but will watch it soon as Joy Division seem to be an incredibly influential band. Also looks very well done and covers a lot of material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Placid Casual Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Sumner and Hooky are from Salford so he can keep his hands off! Isn't that Salford, Greater Manchester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 That bloke who loves Manchester will be along shortly to point out that they're from Manchester. None of them are from Manchester though. 2 from Higher Broughton and 2 from Macclesfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Isn't that Salford, Greater Manchester? Salford is an entirely different city to Manchester. Greater Manchester is a county. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Couldn't listen to it with high volume as everyone in the house has gone to bed, but will watch it soon as Joy Division seem to be an incredibly influential band. Also looks very well done and covers a lot of material. New Order were far more important and influential. Joy Division tick all the boxes for the middle class media to latch onto. Angst ridden guitar band who had a singer who actually meant what he was singing about and then who actually killed himself. Whether the Joy Division sound would have evolved into what New Order became is all conjecture. But Bernard Sumner was the driving force behind New Orders more electronic sound. Whether he would have become so influential with Ian Curtis around is open to debate. New Order would not exist without JD. But JD would not have become the cult they turned into without the success and evolution of New Order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I'm sorry but Joy division would've become the cult with or without new order. They had the tunes end of. She's lost Control, transmission, atmosphere, isolation, etc etc. I'm sorry but Joy division would've become the cult with or without new order. They had the tunes end of. She's lost Control, transmission, atmosphere, isolation, etc etc. JD have fantastic tunes and you maybe right. JD seem to have got bigger over the last decade or so through the 2 films and through the New Order hiatus. But while I was growing up Joy Division were no where near as big as they are now. No one knows how things would have panned out if Ian Curtis had not passed away. If New Order had not carried on then in all probability there would have been no Hacienda, no Factory records, no Happy Mondays, no films and I doubt the interest would have increased to the extent it did. Joy Division only had 2 albums and neither of them were hits. It is a moot point really as imo JD and New Order are one and the same thing really. It is as if JD lit the flame but New Order carried the torch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I'm sorry but Joy division would've become the cult with or without new order. They had the tunes end of. She's lost Control, transmission, atmosphere, isolation, etc etc. i totally agree. Love New Order too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F. Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 But Bernard Sumner was the driving force behind New Orders more electronic sound. Whether he would have become so influential with Ian Curtis around is open to debate. Err... It was Curtis who introduced Krafwerk to the other members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Vern Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Err... It was Curtis who introduced Krafwerk to the other members. thought they met each other at Uni? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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