teenageriot Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) No, Arcade Fire are one of my favourite bands, but cheers for making an assumption. And your comment about them selling out arenas was a bit dramatic, they've managed to sell out one date of 9 so far. But still, that means nothing, Paramore have managed to completely sell out 3 days on their current tour of the same type venues. And the standing seems to have gone for all of them, so shall we put Paramore forward for the Pyramid headliners in 2011 then given your theory? I'm simply saying that the last time Elbow played they played THIRD down on The Other Stage and have headlined a small-scale festival, they won't be headlining Glastonbury any time soon. Arcade Fire is a different kettle of fish. They headlined Reading and Leeds this year, one of the biggest festivals in this country, so they clearly stand more of a chance at headlining Glastonbury. Totally incomparable. Edited October 5, 2010 by teenageriot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russycarps Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 No, Arcade Fire are one of my favourite bands, but cheers for making an assumption. And your comment about them selling out arenas was a bit dramatic, they've managed to sell out one date of 9 so far. But still, that means nothing, Paramore have managed to completely sell out 3 days on their current tour of the same type venues. And the standing seems to have gone for all of them, so shall we put Paramore forward for the Pyramid headliners in 2011 then given your theory? I'm simply saying that the last time Elbow played they played THIRD down on The Other Stage and have headlined a small-scale festival, they won't be headlining Glastonbury any time soon. Arcade Fire is a different kettle of fish. They headlined Reading and Leeds this year, one of the biggest festivals in this country, so they clearly stand more of a chance at headlining Glastonbury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageriot Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 That hasn't been the case for many a year though, who, in the last 5 years would be considered one of those bands? Kings of Leon is the only one people seem to have mentioned and that is totally incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Talk of the devil, I normally couldn't give too sh1ts about any of the dirge that headlines Reading, but does anyone find it, I don't know, borderline offensive that a band as both popular and extraordinarily talented as the Arcade Fire have headlined that piece of shit but not Glastonbury? There's something not quite right about this and I don't like it - it feels wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageriot Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I do Homer. Seriously. I saw them the last two times they played at Leeds (first being 07 when they subbed RHCP and totally blew them off the stage) and then this year when they headlined. The crowd was tiny but I didn't mind, at the very least I knew it was people who appreciated the band and all of the c**ts were watching Pendulum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestGoer Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 aside from the guesses that are going around, I have been given a tip by someone who is in the position to know who is playing that prince is one of the acts. However, that source has given me wrong info previously, plus I know that his own source is one that is known to spread false info (not sure if he does so deliberately, or he's giving his own guesses cos he's not properly in the info loop). I'm personally a very long way from being convinced that it's Prince - in fact I believe that it's not (tho realise I might be wrong). But it would be unwise for me to completely ignore what I was told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylishkids Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I think you lack understanding in the history of bands that have previously headlined glastonbury. This is not V festival. Glastonbury have a history of giving bands that were not considered "headline material" by people like you a chance at the top slot. And this is part of the reason I love the festival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toilet Duck Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 No one cares enough? They are doing arena tours now, and selling out venues. Thats 20,000+ capacities. Arcade Fire would be another band absolutely suited to headlining glastonbury, which dont fit into that clique listed above. Or does noone care enough about them either? Open your mind, your world is very bland and blinkered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 That hasn't been the case for many a year though, who, in the last 5 years would be considered one of those bands? Kings of Leon is the only one people seem to have mentioned and that is totally incorrect. same thing happened with Muse - "they're not big enough to headline". But just like with KoL it took them to another level - so much so that while not the V Fest headliner that year (it was Dido) they played after her, and have been solid headliners everywhere since Glasto gave them that opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 What percentage would you say Prince is for headlining. Also if possible what about the other contenders, namely Radiohead, Coldplay, Madonna etc.. it's not something I can give any meaningful answer to. I really only have my own take on things at this moment, not based on any solid info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestGoer Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 it's not something I can give any meaningful answer to. I really only have my own take on things at this moment, not based on any solid info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 say prince was to headline the pyramid on the sunday. who would do the other? purely because i think prince sucks ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageriot Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 KOL and Jay Z have both always been quite big though, Elbow have not. And are arguably stll not. I'm not denying that they probably have quite a large cult following but I just really don't think they're at all worthy of a headline slot at one of the biggest (arguably THE biggest) festival in the world. I'd say The Other Stage would be perfect for them. And I know it's not V Festval, I wasn't born yesterday so stop being so f**king patronising, I hope it hurts when you fall off your high horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russycarps Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) Both Elbow and Arcade Fire are two of my favourite bands...still don't think they are pyramid headliners though, and it has nothing to do with my own taste in music...I've wandered along to see pyramid headliners when they've had the stature of Bruce, or Stevie for example even though they don't often get a rotation on my mp3 player...whereas KOL, Killers, Arctic Monkeys etc weren't enough of a draw for me so I was off at the Jazzworld or somewhere else...I even gave Gorrillaz a miss this year as I was up at the park at Broken Bells and by the time they were finished I just wandered off to the Bootleg Beatles instead (my mates had gone to the start of Gorrillaz and given up). I think the thing about pyramid headliners with mass appeal is that that they drag in the casual punter a bit more. It doesn't really come down to whether they are worthy or not, or even whether they are class bands like Elbow or Arcade Fire, simply that bigger names are more appealing to those who aren't that pushed...my sisters for example have terrible taste in music (paid a fortune to see both Westlife and Michael bleedin' Buble over the last few months)....and even they have a Prince cd in the car. Edited October 5, 2010 by russycarps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynne Scratch Perry Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 KOL and Jay Z have both always been quite big though, Elbow have not. And are arguably stll not. I'm not denying that they probably have quite a large cult following but I just really don't think they're at all worthy of a headline slot at one of the biggest (arguably THE biggest) festival in the world. I'd say The Other Stage would be perfect for them. And I know it's not V Festval, I wasn't born yesterday so stop being so f**king patronising, I hope it hurts when you fall off your high horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In transit Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 this is glastonbury though. Sure we have been spoilt recenlty by having stellar names like bruce springsteen, stevie wonder, U2 etc but this is the exception, not the norm. The festival will more often than not promote "smaller" acts, purely due to budget constraints. And due to this, I can think of no better bands to step up than elbow or arcade fire (though the opportunity may have passed for them). I think if people are expecting 3 mega star headliners every year, glastonbury isnt the right festival for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageriot Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 KoL have always been big?! That'll explain why the first time I saw them they were supporting the Music at Bridlington Spa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toilet Duck Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 this is glastonbury though. Sure we have been spoilt recenlty by having stellar names like bruce springsteen, stevie wonder, U2 etc but this is the exception, not the norm. The festival will more often than not promote "smaller" acts, purely due to budget constraints. And due to this, I can think of no better bands to step up than elbow or arcade fire (though the opportunity may have passed for them). I think if people are expecting mega star headliners every year, glastonbury isnt the right festival for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestGoer Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 this is glastonbury though. Sure we have been spoilt recenlty by having stellar names like bruce springsteen, stevie wonder, U2 etc but this is the exception, not the norm. The festival will more often than not promote "smaller" acts, purely due to budget constraints. And due to this, I can think of no better bands to step up than elbow or arcade fire (though the opportunity may have passed for them). I think if people are expecting 3 mega star headliners every year, glastonbury isnt the right festival for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In transit Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 There is no such thing as a step too far for the Pyramid. It's a travesty that AF headlined Reading before Glastonbury and they would be truly superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynne Scratch Perry Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Well, not always but for a year or so before they headlined Glastonbury anyhow. Jay Z on the other hand.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tevaburger Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Bruce got a massive cheer when he guested with Arcade Fire too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageriot Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I'm not trying to be a c**t and for me headliners size doesn't usually matter, such as AF this year at Readng, but I just really don't think Elbow can step up their game to become a headliner. Sure, they can be placed there, but for me they'd not have the charisma KOL had to charm the entire crowd and SHOW people they can headline one of the biggest festivals in the world. I don't have a vendetta against Elbow at all, this is merely an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In transit Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 The Glasto crowd has probably evolved even since KoL but the fact that people would receive KoL so rapturously and make the into stars and reject Elbow because they'd only heard one tune and they didn't play that until the end would be tragic. Although you're probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I think in 7 Glastonbury's I've seen one headliner and that was only cos a mate was adamant, so that's what? 1/21. They are utterly irrelevant to the f**king magic that is Glastonbury., whether it's Elbow, prince or Bruce Springsteen. They're a tiny tiny part of it. Get Circus Archaos back for the night to headline, that'll really get people divided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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