Are Rage too heavy for Glasto

[fred quimby]

what in the holy f**k are you on about? If you're looking for bands that are heavy on the glastonbury line up then it's you that has to do the looking.

Come back and tell me that there's none only when you know the music of every act that played.

[jameshunt]

With their band name and yet they are signed by one of the biggest global companies, Sony, perhaps they could play in the comedy tent?

[sifi]

Rage sold out when they reformed. I'm not going to damn them for it, but it does make me smirk when they peddle out their rage against the machince. Seems more like wage from the machine.

Re : heavy bands and the comparative few that play Glasto. I'm not going to go through all the 1375 sets that were played over the Glasto weekend to identify which might be heavy. However, of those 1375 sets at Glasto ONLY TWO matched up with sets that were played at Download. I used efestivals lists of acts A-Z from each festival and ran a countif function in Excel.

Considering that Download is what two weeks before Glasto so those bands are touring and in the UK, you would expect a higher number than two out of the 132 acts that played Download to have played if there were lots and lots of heavier music happening all over the site.

And no, not all 132 acts that played Download are "name" acts.

Edited July 16, 2010 by sifimaster

[MEGABOWL]

You're wrong, their T in the Park set was amazing. One of the best atmospheres I've ever encountered at a festival.

[FloorFiller]

i personally thought Rage were incredibly boring at Leeds in 08 (but that may have been because i anticipated them so much that they were bound to dissapoint)

i doubt they'd ever play Glasto, and i see no need for them to considering they've played almost every other festival over the past few years... not like Glasto to just snatch up every other festival's has-beens

[abu hamster]

In short I hate most heavy music and would rather chew my arm of than go to Download.

Rage are a cross over act and can and should be at Glasto as should have Senser this year a travisty they were not!

Rage are perfect for Glasto in my eyes. Every act on the bill has sold out in one way or the other.

If someone offers a figure and they are happy to play for that then so be it!

I know rage have done a hell of a lot bringing attention to many a good cause

and will do in years to come! To say they are crap because they sold out is a numpty statement!.

U2(Tours til the sun comes out at silly prices), Gorrilla's (£140 a ticket at the dome) Muse(Massive stadium tour have all cashed in along the way. What average joe earns is an irrelevance to this conversation.

This whole thread is blinkered by a single statement that is bollocks or bobbins!

Have had to post read and edit coz the f**king emoticons are out of control!)

Edited July 16, 2010 by abu hamster

[ampersand]

Rage sold out when they reformed. I'm not going to damn them for it, but it does make me smirk when they peddle out their rage against the machince. Seems more like wage from the machine.

Re : heavy bands and the comparative few that play Glasto. I'm not going to go through all the 1375 sets that were played over the Glasto weekend to identify which might be heavy. However, of those 1375 sets at Glasto ONLY TWO matched up with sets that were played at Download. I used efestivals lists of acts A-Z from each festival and ran a countif function in Excel.

Considering that Download is what two weeks before Glasto so those bands are touring and in the UK, you would expect a higher number than two out of the 132 acts that played Download to have played if there were lots and lots of heavier music happening all over the site.

And no, not all 132 acts that played Download are "name" acts.

[fowls]

In short I hate most heavy music and would rather chew my arm of than go to Download.

Rage are a cross over act and can and should be at Glasto as should have Senser this year a travisty they were not!

Rage are perfect for Glasto in my eyes. Every act on the bill has sold out in one way or the other.

If someone offers a figure and they are happy to play for that then so be it!

I know rage have done a hell of a lot bringing attention to many a good cause

and will do in years to come! To say they are crap because they sold out is a numpty statement!.

U2(Tours til the sun comes out at silly prices), Gorrilla's (£140 a ticket at the dome) Muse(Massive stadium tour have all cashed in along the way. What average joe earns is an irrelevance to this conversation.

This whole thread is blinkered by a single statement that is bollocks or bobbins!

Have had to post read and edit coz the f**king emoticons are out of control!)

[Zacko]

Totally agree. The music industry is built in such a way that it's very difficult to get anywhere without 'selling out'. Rage have done a lot of good by making it big with Sony and using their soap box to say what they want to say, certainly a lot more than they could ever manage as unknowns.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

I always get the feeling (perhaps incorrectly) that the crush incident at Roskilde a few years ago has led ME to the conclusion that he doesn't want the rockier bands at Glasto.

[TheSeventhOne]

There are plenty of heavy crossover bands that would fit in fine at Glastonbury. A few that spring to mind are RATM, Deftones, Mastodon, The Mars Volta, Faith No More, Porcupine Tree, Tool are a few that spring to mind.

Download is a specialist festival, yes, but to claim Glastonbury is a specialist festival, backing it up with the statement that it specializes in 'what it does' is a piss weak arguement. The fact of the matter is a couple of 'heavier' bands to get the adrenalin going would be lovely and it'd add to the already massive diversity of the festival. Can't hurt can it?

Edited July 17, 2010 by TheSeventhOne

[sifi]

good man! would those two acts happen to be c&c and slash? the two that i have already stated!

there were the friday headliners at avalon that almost made it into the heavy bracket, but don't. neil probably classes them as heavy though so maybe that's what he's on about.

and sifi, why not do the same excel thing with sonisphere. see what happens there...

Edited July 17, 2010 by sifimaster

[fatyeti24]

Guns N Roses at MOR '88 must be a million miles from Slash on the Pyramid in '10 though.

Guns were the 'baddest band on the planet' back then, the most hyped act around, everybody wanted to see them. this years Glasto was more 'nostalgia' where Slash was concerned. certainly around me there were more 30/40 somethings than kids jumping about. it was a Sunday afternoon singalong, probably one of the tamest shows Slash has ever done!

i thoroughly enjoyed myself there!

Edited July 17, 2010 by fatyeti24

[ampersand]

The two that came up were c&c and slash, yes. Sonisphere returned zero results of the 117 bands playing there. I checked the Guilfest Rock Cave listings, as that tends to have smaller metal / heavy bands playing there, and there was two bands who played there who played the BBC introducing stage at Glasto, The Theory of 6 Degrees and The King Blues, although I don't know either and don't know if they would fit your definition of heavy.

Edited July 17, 2010 by ampersand

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2064999.stm

He has avoided more raucous rock groups like Green Day, The Offspring and Slipknot, whose fans jump around violently in so-called "mosh-pits" and go "crowd-surfing" over the heads of the audience.

[ampersand]

it's all bollocks. can you seriously see a glastonbury crowd starting a moshpit? some guy attempted one with me at billy talent at T and failed! so then i moved to the right a bit more where there was a circle pit

[TheSeventhOne]

Mosh pits are for 13 year olds.

[ampersand]

Mosh pits are for 13 year olds.

Edited July 18, 2010 by ampersand

[Red_Eye_Jedi]

Hold on. They booked Enter Shitkari? Every gig they've ever done the band encouraged pits.. So why is it ok for them to play?

It makes no sense to me..

[saratink]

[Sparticus]

Hold on. They booked Enter Shitkari? Every gig they've ever done the band encouraged pits.. So why is it ok for them to play?

It makes no sense to me..

[Red_Eye_Jedi]

What about a band like Porcupine Tree? They'd be suited I reckon!

And +1 for tool.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Yeah, I was thinking of Enter as well. Didn't see them at Glasto, but when I saw Prodigy, that didn't exactly seem calm?

I just post the link anyway.

Anyway, I really can't see anything massively heavy being booked. Metallica would be one of the best headliner bookings ever, but it won't happen. I think the line you could reach would be Foo's and QOTSA. Can't see RATM playing, especially the amount they charge, let alone their heaviness. Foo's are doing new album at the moment, so might be a contender, and obviously QOTSA are playing Reading so could be a shout. Can't see anything heavier than that really on the main stages (Pyramid and Other).

[eFestivals]

Just because they have had a payday and according to some did not perform it doesnt mean they are not a glasto group!

So as I said then, they're zero different to N-Dubz.

And they're allowed to be that. But what it means is that they're not the great political evangelists that some like to claim for them. They might have been at one point, but nowadays the money comes first.

[eFestivals]

i'm not looking cos i know there are none other than the very very few i know of. you have told me there are some. if you can't back it up then i will stick with my original and correct thoughts

Aside from you wishing to prove yourself happy with your ignorance, is there any point to your posts like this?

You say there's few heavy bands, but accept that you're actually completely in the dark as to how many there are because you don't know every band.

But because I won't do YOUR research for YOU, that makes your ignorance right and my contextual comments completely invalid. Right.

Blimey, is that what passes for intelligence in your head?

There is a big difference between what you like to think you know, and what you actually know. The facts of the matter are this: you don't have the first idea how many heavy bands there are. Until you do, you're in no position to make any meaningful comment.

The simple fact is this: there are always more than the narrow minded will ever find.