Things that ur happy about

[bunique]

A relative who was adopted as a baby has contacted our family after over 30 years. Sooooo glad my grandmother has lived long enough to see this day!

[LondonTom]

The Rib Man of Brick Lane was at a "Food Festival" at a posh french cafe near Spitafields today and I got there in time that he was still serving

Delicous, even had really nice rolls today from said cafe's chefs (Cafe A La Vin)!

[zero000]

The listening data for "c**ts are still running the world" . Seems to be a peak around May time

http://www.last.fm/music/Jarvis+Cocker/_/Running+The+World

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

The only two convictions that I have ever had were criminal (drug and drink related). Anyway, I've just had a DBS carried out on myself and they no longer appear. This makes me happy as they could have proved a bit of a problem getting another job.

[atomised]

How far back were they from yog if you don't mind me asking and was it a standard or enhanced Dbs

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

How far back were they from yog if you don't mind me asking and was it a standard or enhanced Dbs

It was only a standard DBS. Both convictions date way back - the first was in 1989 and the second was in 2004. I've just looked at the paperwork my last employer provided me with and noticed that it was an enhanced check that they carried out which did highlight both convictions.

I'm looking to go in to locksmithing and the tutor said that minor convictions like these wouldn't prevent me from joining the locksmithing governing body (of sorts, as there isn't one governing body). He also said that most employers in this area wouldn't be bothered by these convictions. Obviously I don't know if that's true or not. Ultimately I'd like to work for myself so it wouldn't matter necessarily unless a client demanded an enhanced check. This could happen though as one angle I'd like to go in on is doing lock outs for social housing providers and they may indeed not accept a standard check.

[atomised]

Mine is from back in 2001 so would guess a standard one won't flag that up now. Thanks for replying

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Mine is from back in 2001 so would guess a standard one won't flag that up now. Thanks for replying

Hello atomised. Yes, by the looks of it you'd be clear with a 2001 conviction on a basic check as long as the offence wasn't too much of a 'biggy'.

[atomised]

Just a drugs based caution. Not a massive One happy to know it'd probably be clear, cheers and good luck in your venture

[eFestivals]

Hello atomised. Yes, by the looks of it you'd be clear with a 2001 conviction on a basic check as long as the offence wasn't too much of a 'biggy'.

with nearly 50% of men having criminal convictions or cautions, it's impossible for them to work the criminal checks system and credit everything as relevant - otherwise there'd be sod all people to work in the jobs that need the checks.

[Spindles]

Where does that statistic come from? Seems ludicrously high to me.

[eFestivals]

Where does that statistic come from? Seems ludicrously high to me.

from when my ex used to do crime stats for the govt.

It's fallen some in the last decade or two - I have seen a more recent stat but can't remember what it is now. But it's definitely currently over 30% (for males).

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

with nearly 50% of men having criminal convictions or cautions, it's impossible for them to work the criminal checks system and credit everything as relevant - otherwise there'd be sod all people to work in the jobs that need the checks.

I get what you are saying. Just wondering how they draw the line and indeed who are 'they' in the first place? Any ideas?

[eFestivals]

I get what you are saying. Just wondering how they draw the line and indeed who are 'they' in the first place? Any ideas?

I don't know how the CRB checks work as I've never had need to know as i've never had one.

I do know that most older (less serious) convictions never got put onto the computer systems they use for these sorts of things, tho as that was a long time ago now it will be having less and less relevance.

I'm not entirely sure, but it seems to be the case that there's still a disconnect between what happens within the criminal justice system as a whole and what is available on whatever 'big' system is used nationwide for stuff like CRB checks. It's perhaps still the case that the more minor crimes remain only a local level and it's the bigger stuff that gets put into the 'big' system, as I've certain knowledge from recent-ish years that what has happened in one force area is not available within another.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

I don't know how the CRB checks work as I've never had need to know as i've never had one.

I do know that most older (less serious) convictions never got put onto the computer systems they use for these sorts of things, tho as that was a long time ago now it will be having less and less relevance.

I'm not entirely sure, but it seems to be the case that there's still a disconnect between what happens within the criminal justice system as a whole and what is available on whatever 'big' system is used nationwide for stuff like CRB checks. It's perhaps still the case that the more minor crimes remain only a local level and it's the bigger stuff that gets put into the 'big' system, as I've certain knowledge from recent-ish years that what has happened in one force area is not available within another.

That's interesting because I was advised by my locksmith tutor to use Disclosure Scotland for my DBS check even though I live in England. I wonder if they aren't as up to scratch as other DBS checking agencies in terms of the access to information that they have. They probably do but it does make me wonder if there are discrepencies between these bodies.

[kaosmark2]

I've been through Disclosure Scotland for my last job, CRB for a recent one and a bunch of clearances done by specific police forces in the past (not when working for police). It's all pretty much the same.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

I've been through Disclosure Scotland for my last job, CRB for a recent one and a bunch of clearances done by specific police forces in the past (not when working for police). It's all pretty much the same.

OK, thanks for clarifying kaosmark2.

[MrZigster]

About fifteen years ago I had to have a CRB check. I was interested to know whether my (by then) spent caution was still on their books.

They were dithering over it and I had a deadline so I phoned them up.

Them: "Can you tell us when and where and what was it you were cautioned for?"

Me: "No. No clues".

Fuckers

(As advised when I received said caution, it was still on there).

[Rufus Gwertigan]

I have had a number of CRBs both basic and enhanced. The last enhanced I got took 6 months as they had to contact all the forces I had lived in. It is extremely thorough and includes arrests if the chief constable deems they are relevant, irrespective of if charges were made or not.

[eFestivals]

I have had a number of CRBs both basic and enhanced. The last enhanced I got took 6 months as they had to contact all the forces I had lived in. It is extremely thorough and includes arrests if the chief constable deems they are relevant, irrespective of if charges were made or not.

but it's only as good as any forces records of crimes and arrests, and their record-keeping is pretty shit on the whole.

From what I know, what tends to get entered is what the person doing the entering thinks might be of interest to someone in the future - as that's a way of reducing the workload for doing it.

[Jackmypie]

Waitrose free coffee. I just pop in whenever I want one, all you need is a waitrose card. Tastes good too.

[Spindles]

Glastonbury announcement, perfect alignment of acts, times and stages, followed by tickets arriving have left me feeling like a kid at xmas. I'd just lit a joint before the line-up dropped and had been sat open mouthed staring at the lineup and reading people's opinions for an hour when the postman arrived.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Well, I've gone and done it - I am 50 years old today. I got to this position despite my valliant efforts to kill myself with abuse over the years. Just about to go off camping for the weekend with about 30 mates. The weather's good and the craic will be also. This is making me happy today.

[feral chile]

Well, I've gone and done it - I am 50 years old today. I got to this position despite my valliant efforts to kill myself with abuse over the years. Just about to go off camping for the weekend with about 30 mates. The weather's good and the craic will be also. This is making me happy today.

Happy Birthday Yog, have a good one xx

[eFestivals]

Well, I've gone and done it - I am 50 years old today. I got to this position despite my valliant efforts to kill myself with abuse over the years. Just about to go off camping for the weekend with about 30 mates. The weather's good and the craic will be also. This is making me happy today.

welcome to the club of recents.

I'm rather shocked that I made it too.