steviewevie Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 10 minutes ago, Neil said: and bank of england acting too late on raising interest rates 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 I guess that's it for a May election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 36 minutes ago, Neil said: and bank of england acting too late on raising interest rates Yep, if they'd got a grip on things sooner then inflation wouldn't have got so out of control. Also cause they were so reluctant to raise them then they will probs need to stay higher for longer unless the economy properly tanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: The UK genuinely peaked in like the 1800s and it's all been downhill since then with some brief periods of prosperity in between. Labour have a gigantic task on their hands. Japan and the UK are the 2 countries to enter recession today. They;'re even more f**ked than us though as their population is even older and they don't like immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said: Yep, if they'd got a grip on things sooner then inflation wouldn't have got so out of control. Also cause they were so reluctant to raise them then they will probs need to stay higher for longer unless the economy properly tanks i'd say that lizz truss can be blamed for this recession, economy was bubbling along in a normal good way, and then loads of stories of sky high mortgage rates, i know i stropped spending as much cos of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said: The UK genuinely peaked in like the 1800s and it's all been downhill since then with some brief periods of prosperity in between. it growth that creates the best prosperity, its downhill with economic activity and benefits once an economy reaches maturity. 1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said: Labour have a gigantic task on their hands. if they had money to fix the problems and properly fund public services that would create growth for people to feel prosperous. 1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said: Japan and the UK are the 2 countries to enter recession today. They;'re even more f**ked than us though as their population is even older and they don't like immigrants. jaoans been f**ked for 2+ decades, the uk for just one-ish.2 countries with high debts sucking public spending dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 23 minutes ago, Neil said: i'd say that lizz truss can be blamed for this recession, economy was bubbling along in a normal good way, and then loads of stories of sky high mortgage rates, i know i stropped spending as much cos of it. mortgage rates were heading up anyway she just sped it up. Interest rates were rising globally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kaosmark2 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 13 hours ago, Neil said: they're not going to get a 23% swing, there's nothing to suggest that sort of serge /(, i don't think a new constituency can really count as a gain) there's far fewer green posters around Bristol now than there was 10+ years ago (Londoners don't vote green, do they?????) I mean, it's a changed constituency. But the shift to me doesn't actually read as "Labour to Green" it's the the posh bits just west of Clifton Suspension Bridge that would've voted Tory have gone from the old Bristol West constituency, and its added in more flats with ppl aged 18-35 in, that'll vote either Labour or Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kaosmark2 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, steviewevie said: The transphobia row is probably less damaging to Sunak than the £1k bet would've been with more headlines. Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, Neil said: and bank of england acting too late on raising interest rates Well this is what the BoE wanted, they pushed interest rates up so this is partly on them too. They need to start looking at reducing rates to try to stimulate the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 This is truly disastrous. It’s also fascinating to see some in the media try to paint this as a ‘mild recession’ which they wouldn’t do at all if it was happening under Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 Just now, Ozanne said: This is truly disastrous. It’s also fascinating to see some in the media try to paint this as a ‘mild recession’ which they wouldn’t do at all if it was happening under Labour. saved by high numbers of immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozanne Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: saved by high numbers of immigrants. Goes against the Tory narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 Another poll showing a decent Labour lead still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 Just now, Ozanne said: Another poll showing a decent Labour lead still. Reform the 3rd party now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: Reform the 3rd party now? Looks like it, the by-elections will show us if this is correct or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 21 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Yougov deleted that tweet..which is interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffJeff Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 Just now, steviewevie said: Yougov deleted that tweet..which is interesting... I think they f**ked up the first graph which contradicts the headline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 33 minutes ago, Ozanne said: Well this is what the BoE wanted, they pushed interest rates up so this is partly on them too. They need to start looking at reducing rates to try to stimulate the economy. Not going to happen atm I'm afraid, inflation is still too much of a danger and wage growth still relatively strong. Also the near 0% rates did not really help the economy it just artificially pumped it a bit. Things have been a shambles since 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 37 minutes ago, steviewevie said: saved by high numbers of immigrants. You could also explain the negative growth in gdp per capita through the lens of high migration- ie new migrants generally generating less than than the previous average income, thus increasing the denominator by a greater magnitude than the numerator in the gdp/head sum. Depends how you want to spin it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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