2025 Headliners

[Suprefan]

58 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

I’m more or less with you on this. IMO Charli would be a much better and more relevant Saturday night Pyramid headliner. I’m not her demographic either, although I find this a weird concept. Brat is a great fun party album perfect music for a good time Saturday night. ME could still have had NY, he’s the legend on the line up and that’s the slot he should be in. 
 

Don’t agree that there’s an issue or a bias re women headlining the Pyramid though. 

 

 

Except that NY prob wanted to headline so he wouldnt have  time restrictions. Its not gonna matter real soon anyway cause the list is very very very short on who they could bring to headline Pyramid anyway from that generation of artists. The fest can finally move forward in that aspect and it opens up lots of options for them if they can pull it off.

[Dales]

6 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Won't someone think of the poor Gen Xers...

 

They will probably add Billy Idol on the next poster drop.

[NorthernSoul52]

Nicely done.

 

On a serious note, having been thinking Billy Idol would be a great afternoon booking on the Pyramid. Probably not quite at the level to scratch third on there, but definitely fourth.

[NorthernSoul52]

As for the Charli XCX thing, I'm aware that she had a massive year and looks set to possibly kick on this year. But I'd also argue that next to the quartet of female-orientated headliners we've had since the pandemic, she's just not on the level of being an equivalent draw, with the exception of SZA.

 

LIDO is my yardstick there. If Rodrigo can shift BST with a third more people through the door but Charli can't shift LIDO, then I'm not sure how she enters the conversation.

 

If there is no Neil Young or heritage headline option available, then maybe she gets the leg up - and she's an exciting booking, very much.

 

But the whole bit in that article earlier in the thread that she's on the Other Stage for a "less restrictive" performance is hokum.

[NorthernSoul52]

Imagine if it had been Fred again.. though.

 

Fred again.. / Neil Young / Olivia Rodrigo. People still would have been up in arms about Charli on the Other Stage.

[foolee]

Charli XCX can’t sell out a relatively small (in terms of a Glasto headliner) headline show in London, says it all. Case closed with her being a headliner really, weird people can’t see that. 

[charlierc]

On 06/03/2025 at 12:27, chino1 said:

Give the song Paris by The 1975 a listen. It's a beautiful song & will only enhance your day 

Paris by Friendly Fires is a song that enhances my day when I hear it tbf.

[charlierc]

15 minutes ago, foolee said:

Charli XCX can’t sell out a relatively small (in terms of a Glasto headliner) headline show in London, says it all. Case closed with her being a headliner really, weird people can’t see that. 

Gauging what her popularity is feels trickier than it should be not gonna lie. I know she's a big deal artist and did note there were a lot of people at her arena dates but agree she probably should've sold that out by now.

[NorthernSoul52]

The 1975's Paris is a pretty tune. An outlier to be included, I'd wager.

 

I do wonder if they will have a guest star. Save a Charli XCX cameo, I just can't see it happening. They'll view it as "their" moment.

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

As for the Charli XCX thing, I'm aware that she had a massive year and looks set to possibly kick on this year. But I'd also argue that next to the quartet of female-orientated headliners we've had since the pandemic, she's just not on the level of being an equivalent draw, with the exception of SZA.

 

LIDO is my yardstick there. If Rodrigo can shift BST with a third more people through the door but Charli can't shift LIDO, then I'm not sure how she enters the conversation.

 

If there is no Neil Young or heritage headline option available, then maybe she gets the leg up - and she's an exciting booking, very much.

 

But the whole bit in that article earlier in the thread that she's on the Other Stage for a "less restrictive" performance is hokum.

I thought Olivia Rodrigo with Charli XCX as a subheadliner would've been a shout tbf.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Her arena tour was a slow sell too.  Night and day compared to O-Rod and Sabrina.

[NorthernSoul52]

Just now, charlierc said:

Gauging what her popularity is feels trickier than it should be not gonna lie. I know she's a big deal artist and did note there were a lot of people at her arena dates but agree she probably should've sold that out by now.

The arena shows took a while to sell. It wasn't until BRAT summer really took off that they shifted.

[NorthernSoul52]

Just now, charlierc said:

I thought Olivia Rodrigo with Charli XCX as a subheadliner would've been a shout tbf.

Got to be the preference of relative darkness to help the show she likes to put on, I reckon.

[NorthernSoul52]

It does feel a little weird, with all the clamour the youngsters have for Primavera Sound, that there is some who believe that trio should all be headlining at Glastonbury. A bit of a replication if they did.

[kalifire]

Also brat is a bit of a gimmick, followed up with the Billie collab which was a master move but it’ll be Charli’s next album that cements her or it’s revealed she was a momentary thing. 

[charlierc]

48 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Her arena tour was a slow sell too.  Night and day compared to O-Rod and Sabrina.

Or indeed that Sabrina is doing huge numbers for her two BST Hyde Park gigs.

[NorthernSoul52]

I am slightly shocked how fast Carpenter moved the first date. Again, another one who I don't think on paper has the staying power, but I will likely concede I'm wrong there.

[Suprefan]

4 hours ago, kalifire said:

Also brat is a bit of a gimmick, followed up with the Billie collab which was a master move but it’ll be Charli’s next album that cements her or it’s revealed she was a momentary thing. 

 

she has been making music for 15 years and had a huge song early on with Fancy and kept making good music nobody ( in the mainstream )  seemed to want to care about til now. I think its more that she has never wavered from doing what she wants and everyone else finally caught up. 
 

 

trying to use metrics as excuses for why somebody should be where they deserve to be is just dumb. Her crowd is gonna be big, it might get dangerous. End of story.

Edited March 9, 2025 by Suprefan

[kalifire]

13 minutes ago, Suprefan said:

End of story.

Spoilers!!

[NorthernSoul52]

Crowd will be big, doubt it will get dangerous. Doechii will siphon off a chunk.

[NorthernSoul52]

Will be very interested to hear from eyeballs on the crowd on the comparison with Young, mind you, but you were never going to book him anywhere but top spot.

 

Young hasn't shifted BST yet, though he is into Tier 4, for example.

[Suprefan]

Still think its funny people think 1975 is gonna be so packed they close the field off. 

[FKA SOSOTWS]

No one here thinks that.

[Mark H]

7 hours ago, foolee said:

Charli XCX can’t sell out a relatively small (in terms of a Glasto headliner) headline show in London, says it all. Case closed with her being a headliner really, weird people can’t see that. 

Is this one of the cases of an artist being more popular internationally than at home? She just headlined a festival tour of Australia and NZ.

[northernangel]

21 hours ago, Mark H said:

Ok I’m very late to this discussion and likely digging up a point that has been 

made hundreds of times already…

 

But it’s wild that Neil Young is on the pointy one in place of Charli I’m not Charli’s demographic but I can easily see that she’s at the top of a 13ish year career and absolutely massive. This one doesn’t make sense from any perspective other than allowing Michael to book his hero one last time.
 

I don’t begrudge him that.. but the booking stinks of favouring the old white dude with a guitar over a modern sensation. If Charli cant headline the Pyramid now then what hope is there for other women artists?

 

Ok rant over. Sorry for most likely digging this one up again.

If Charli was to get headliner at all this year, which I'll male it clear she shouldn't, it should be over The 1976 who don't have actually to promote other than the festival needed someone we got asked an a band that will not say no.

 

8 hours ago, foolee said:

Charli XCX can’t sell out a relatively small (in terms of a Glasto headliner) headline show in London, says it all. Case closed with her being a headliner really, weird people can’t see that. 

 

I think Charli has too high priced tickets but a Glastonbury headliner with no doubt would sell it. You're not headlining Glastonbury playing 32k Lido, the smaller of some London outdoor parks and headlining Park Life. 

 

8 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Her arena tour was a slow sell too.  Night and day compared to O-Rod and Sabrina.

 

Yes it was and it wasn't that big either. People are over estimating the size of Charli

33 minutes ago, Mark H said:

Is this one of the cases of an artist being more popular internationally than at home? She just headlined a festival tour of Australia and NZ.

 

Their festivals aren't necessarily as big as British one.