Walking time from different landmarks

[mazola]

the best way to measure distances is to fire up Google Earth (the app not the web page) and dial the date back to 2019

You can then draw a path between the points of interest and measure the distance

For example John Peel to Pyramid

Edited March 29, 2022 by mazola

[clarkete]

Is anyone still ambitious enough to try this?

It looks like it would be a matter of update this chart...

With these locations...

Add in the times from the original and fill in any gaps with rough estimates relative to the other times.  Don't overthink it as it doesn't have to be perfect and we can get plenty of feedback from the ungrateful community.

[paulshane]

6 minutes ago, clarkete said:

Is anyone still ambitious enough to try this?

It looks like it would be a matter of update this chart...

With these locations...

Add in the times from the original and fill in any gaps with rough estimates relative to the other times.  Don't overthink it as it doesn't have to be perfect and we can get plenty of feedback from the ungrateful community.

I'm certainly going to record some Strava walks when i'm out and about

[clarkete]

15 minutes ago, paulshane said:

I'm certainly going to record some Strava walks when i'm out and about

You mean on the farm before opening, or of comparable distances? 

Either way I salute you. 

[moogster]

37 minutes ago, clarkete said:

 

 

Add in the times from the original and fill in any gaps with rough estimates relative to the other times.  Don't overthink it as it doesn't have to be perfect and we can get plenty of feedback from the ungrateful community.

Do you mean an excel job or a full on google earth job? I am quite tempted to do the google earth thing, when I am back at work next week 😈

[clarkete]

11 minutes ago, moogster said:

Do you mean an excel job or a full on google earth job? I am quite tempted to do the google earth thing, when I am back at work next week 😈

I'd been thinking that sounded most accurate, but also slower and harder to do. 

We could start with guesstimates couldn't we and then get the efests hive mind to feedback - as long as we don't expect a consensus obviously 😉

[paulshane]

52 minutes ago, clarkete said:

You mean on the farm before opening, or of comparable distances? 

Either way I salute you. 

during the festival, so probably more use for the next one, but better than wild guesswork 🙂

[moogster]

1 hour ago, clarkete said:

I'd been thinking that sounded most accurate, but also slower and harder to do. 

We could start with guesstimates couldn't we and then get the efests hive mind to feedback - as long as we don't expect a consensus obviously 😉

Or then a google survey thing, throw it in a thread, get feedback?

(I will try the google earth thing anyway, I've been meaning to out of pure nerdiness and we are getting crap weather)

[moogster]

something like that

[Hawros]

28 minutes ago, moogster said:

something like that

Youd have to normalise this to make it in any way sensible. 
 

eg take someone’s avg time for the lot, and scale up or down 

[moogster]

36 minutes ago, Hawros said:

Youd have to normalise this to make it in any way sensible. 
 

eg take someone’s avg time for the lot, and scale up or down 

Yes I was thinking about that, I'm not a statistic specialist so didn't go much further than medians and averages. Your suggestion is REALLY good I have to say!

Anyway could share the raw data for expert view on this AND of course for lenghty forum discussions, because that's the fun part.

[KidneyTerra]

1 hour ago, moogster said:

Yes I was thinking about that, I'm not a statistic specialist so didn't go much further than medians and averages. Your suggestion is REALLY good I have to say!

Anyway could share the raw data for expert view on this AND of course for lenghty forum discussions, because that's the fun part.

I’d be keen to know distances between each venue as the walking times already suggested seem a bit inflated to me.  With distances you can then factor in the variables such as mud, how busy it is or current state.  The distance will remain the same……unless you are zig zagging all over the shop.

Edited May 25, 2022 by KidneyTerra

[moogster]

3 minutes ago, KidneyTerra said:

I’d be keen to know distances between each venue as the walking times already suggested seem a bit inflated to me.  With distances you can then factor in the variables such as mud, how busy it is or current state.  The distance will remain the same……unless you are zig zagging all over the shop.

Yes true. I had a look at google earth and it's good but then thought of going old fashion, print the 2022 map big and just do some quick measuring, as it includes paths and a scale anyway. Basically like on paper maps where you have distances.

[KidneyTerra]

25 minutes ago, moogster said:

Yes true. I had a look at google earth and it's good but then thought of going old fashion, print the 2022 map big and just do some quick measuring, as it includes paths and a scale anyway. Basically like on paper maps where you have distances.

Mapmyrun also let’s you plot your own route and gives you accurate distances.  Times are dependant on too many variables, distances are fixed.  If you have distances, you can add something like

Average times per 1km

Low peak - sunny - 15 mins

High peak - sunny - 25 mins

Low peak - muddy - 20 mins

High peak - muddy - 35 mins

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GmasterWomble]

I'd be interested to know the rough times between each campsite & stages... But I don't know enough to even start and would be a bit of a job 

[clarkete]

Well doesn't take long to bodge together an empty chart...

[moogster]

OK, so I printed a map, took a piece of string, and had a go at distances between stage. It's ROUGH. whenever there's a lot of possible paths, if you can cut through or not (above the park is an easy shortcut, Pyramid or Other may not be), if I mixed up block 9 and WOW (not a dance person), in short, don't be picky about a 100m inconsistency and I got the below.

Then assumed a 3 km/h speed ended up with the second tab.

I haven't compared with what we have already but maybe it helps.

 

 

Edited May 31, 2022 by moogster
Edited because the tables are time first then distance

[bexj]

Good effort!  Its easy to see how you can rack up 30000 steps a day!!

[moogster]

Thanks, I have the file open for comments or other scenarios. I find some of the times there quite optimistic.

At what speed does one walk at glasto? I think it would be good to have a version for "worst case scenario", busy, mud etc. I just need to change my formula.

[bexj]

Like anything at Glasto, time is unexplained....  but I reckon if you put your head down, conditions are good and you don't allow yourself to be distracted AT all, then your timings are pretty realistic.  

[moogster]

Amended the table for 2 km/hour and fixed a missing acoustic line. (I have a slight problem with attaching file, hopefully this works

	Acoustic	Arcadia	Avalon	Block 9	Circus	Glade	John Peel	Leftfield	Other	Pyramid	SH (WOW)	Sticklinch	Strummerville	The Park	West Holts	Williams Green	Worthy View
Acoustic	0	40	20	20	10	25	35	25	30	20	35	65	40	40	20	10	40
Arcadia	40	0	20	30	35	20	35	35	25	30	25	20	20	10	25	35	25
Avalon	20	20	0	5	10	15	40	15	20	35	35	45	20	20	10	20	20
Block 9	20	30	5	0	15	20	45	25	25	35	40	50	25	30	15	20	30
Circus	10	35	10	15	0	20	40	15	20	20	35	50	30	35	10	10	35
Glade	25	20	15	20	20	0	30	5	5	20	20	35	20	20	10	20	25
John Peel	35	35	40	45	40	30	0	25	20	20	20	50	50	40	35	30	50
Leftfield	25	35	15	25	15	5	25	0	5	15	20	35	25	20	10	15	30
Other	30	25	20	25	20	5	20	5	0	25	15	30	30	20	15	20	30
Pyramid	20	30	35	35	20	20	20	15	25	0	20	50	35	35	20	15	40
Silver Hayes (WOW)	35	25	35	40	35	20	20	20	15	20	0	40	35	25	35	30	40
Sticklinch	65	20	45	50	50	35	50	35	30	50	40	0	35	20	50	50	40
Strummerville	40	20	20	25	30	20	50	25	30	35	35	35	0	20	15	30	5
The Park	40	10	20	30	35	20	40	20	20	35	25	20	20	0	25	35	20
West Holts	20	25	10	15	10	10	35	10	15	20	35	50	15	25	0	10	25
Williams Green	10	35	20	20	10	20	30	15	20	15	30	50	30	35	10	0	35
Worthy View	40	25	20	30	35	25	50	30	30	40	40	40	5	20	25	35	0

[clarkete]

7 minutes ago, moogster said:

Amended the table for 2 km/hour and fixed a missing acoustic line. (I have a slight problem with attaching file, hopefully this works

	Acoustic	Arcadia	Avalon	Block 9	Circus	Glade	John Peel	Leftfield	Other	Pyramid	SH (WOW)	Sticklinch	Strummerville	The Park	West Holts	Williams Green	Worthy View
Acoustic	0	40	20	20	10	25	35	25	30	20	35	65	40	40	20	10	40
Arcadia	40	0	20	30	35	20	35	35	25	30	25	20	20	10	25	35	25
Avalon	20	20	0	5	10	15	40	15	20	35	35	45	20	20	10	20	20
Block 9	20	30	5	0	15	20	45	25	25	35	40	50	25	30	15	20	30
Circus	10	35	10	15	0	20	40	15	20	20	35	50	30	35	10	10	35
Glade	25	20	15	20	20	0	30	5	5	20	20	35	20	20	10	20	25
John Peel	35	35	40	45	40	30	0	25	20	20	20	50	50	40	35	30	50
Leftfield	25	35	15	25	15	5	25	0	5	15	20	35	25	20	10	15	30
Other	30	25	20	25	20	5	20	5	0	25	15	30	30	20	15	20	30
Pyramid	20	30	35	35	20	20	20	15	25	0	20	50	35	35	20	15	40
Silver Hayes (WOW)	35	25	35	40	35	20	20	20	15	20	0	40	35	25	35	30	40
Sticklinch	65	20	45	50	50	35	50	35	30	50	40	0	35	20	50	50	40
Strummerville	40	20	20	25	30	20	50	25	30	35	35	35	0	20	15	30	5
The Park	40	10	20	30	35	20	40	20	20	35	25	20	20	0	25	35	20
West Holts	20	25	10	15	10	10	35	10	15	20	35	50	15	25	0	10	25
Williams Green	10	35	20	20	10	20	30	15	20	15	30	50	30	35	10	0	35
Worthy View	40	25	20	30	35	25	50	30	30	40	40	40	5	20	25	35	0

Fabulous job. 

Admire the practicality of the string approach. 

I won't even attempt to comment on times, will leave that for others. 

One question, would it be time consuming to add the Co op?

Strikes me that will be a popular destination, but you perhaps decided already that its time would be relative to a nearby stage and therefore unnecessary? 

[moogster]

3 minutes ago, clarkete said:

Fabulous job. 

Admire the practicality of the string approach. 

I won't even attempt to comment on times, will leave that for others. 

One question, would it be time consuming to add the Co op?

Strikes me that will be a popular destination, but you perhaps decided already that its time would be relative to a nearby stage and therefore unnecessary? 

My computer is too old for google earth... I realised that the string is quite convenient to see what path is shorter. I will be the one with a map and a piece of string at the end of each gig 😛

I did want Coop but couldn't be arsed checking exactly where it was. A quick pic and I'll add it 🙂

[moogster]

The fast and the slow options, with Co-Op, and some colour coded fun (the redder the more chance you have for it to deviate)

 

[clarkete]

31 minutes ago, moogster said:

The fast and the slow options, with Co-Op, and some colour coded fun (the redder the more chance you have for it to deviate)

 

I think that's lovely, thank you. 

I'm sure you'll get more comments once folks have calmed and are no longer frothing over clashfinder 😊