Jump to content

Don't Miss a Beat

Join the UK's most passionate festival community. Keep up with the latest conversations, line-up rumours, and music news.

250,000+ Members

Connect with a massive network of fellow festival-goers.

Lively Discussions

Thousands of active topics on music, campsites, and tips.

Hot Rumours & News

Hear about secret sets and lineup drops before anyone else.

Create Free Account
OR
  • Sign Up!

    Join our friendly community of music lovers and be part of the fun 😎

news & politics:discussion


zahidf

Recommended Posts

8 hours ago, Kurosagi said:

This Austerity 2.0 bullshit chatter is pretty depressing/shocking. I mean the british public have swallowed some shit over the years but does Truss *really*Β  believe this will fly? It's all getting a bit ridiculous now.

Β 

yeah, surely they will uturn on some of this...I know the lunatic fringe have now got their hands on the steering wheel, but there are still many Tory MPs who will not be happy about this at all..especially some of the new red wall ones. It's like they're desperate to do their neo-thatcher thing and re-shape the british economy but they just have a couple of years...and with this our democracy isn't working, they got there just with tory member votes...so maybe there has to be some other sort of intervention.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We need to do something, we can’t allow them to gut our public services any further. This right here is why I get so angry about the Tories and why I say we need a Labour government.Β 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Simon Clarke in the Times

Image

Its an issue successive governments have tangled with and haven't found a solution for since the mid-1990's when we signed all these trade deals with China, India and the former Eastern European socialist block. They have salaries that are a fraction of ours and little in the way of social systems like healthcare & pensions along with many having a much youngerΒ population.

I think the simple answer is you can't compete.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, lost said:

Its an issue successive governments have tangled with and haven't found a solution for since the mid-1990's when we signed all these trade deals with China, India and the former Eastern European socialist block. They have salaries that are a fraction of ours and little in the way of social systems like healthcare & pensions along with many having a much youngerΒ population.

I think the simple answer is you can't compete.

its not about the age of the population, its about how much those oldies have saved for their old age; so that they're not burdening today's society with their old age costs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The public in this country just seem to roll over and allow the Tories to tear the country apart.

The constant comparison to others countries is a form of gaslighting to make the the public believe things are actually great here so that when the Tories make them worse we don’t get angry. It’s a joke.Β 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Punksnotdead said:

No trains & no march near me. Odd that they've chosen to hold these on a day with train strikes!

The march in bristol is going to meet up with the train picketers.Β 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

No trains & no march near me. Odd that they've chosen to hold these on a day with train strikes!

I think it’s the other way round tbf, the marches were planned and then rail strikes were announced.Β 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Latest Activity

    • Ah, well. Never mind, hey.
    • In August 2009, in hisΒ SpectatorΒ blog he wrote aboutΒ Harriet Harman, deputy leader of the Labour Party, in unflattering terms. Liddle began the article by asking: "So β€” Harriet Harman, then. Would you? I mean after a few beers obviously, not while you were sober."[27]Β Tanya GoldΒ wrote inΒ The GuardianΒ that Liddle had delivered a "tissue-thin polemic." Pointing out that it wasΒ The Spectator's cover story that week.[28]Β Rachel CookeΒ inΒ The ObserverΒ nearly two months later recalled finding Liddle's piece "disgusting"[29]Β Cooke went on to say: "I would still like to do something really unpleasant to the man who wrote [the article]." Liddle said two months later that the Harman column "was supposed to be a parody of guttural, base sexism", a joke he assumed readers would understand. After the negative response from Gold (and then Cooke, among other female journalists) he continued: "And then I suppose I came to the conclusion – gradually – that I must have got it wrong."[30]Β In June 2014, he said that of those he had offended, Harman was the one person to whom he would apologise.[31] In November 2009, again forΒ The SpectatorΒ website, he offered "a quick update on what the Muslim savages are up to," a brief article about the stoning to death of a 20-year-old woman in Somalia after she was accused of adultery, and the similar death of a 13-year-old the year before. He made remarks, considered sarcastic, that read: "Incidentally, many Somalis have come to Britain as immigrants recently, where they are widely admired for their strong work ethic, respect for the law and keen, piercing, intelligence."[32][33] In December 2009, on hisΒ SpectatorΒ blog, Liddle referred to two black music producers, Brandon Jolie and Kingsley Ogundele, who had plotted to kill Jolie's 15-year-old pregnant girlfriend, as "human filth" and said the incident was not an anomaly. He continued: When he was accused of racism, Liddle said he was instead engaging in a debate aboutΒ multiculturalism.[35][36]Β In March 2010 theΒ Press Complaints CommissionΒ (PCC) upheld a complaint against Liddle, who became the first journalist to be censured over the contents of a blog, because he had not been able to prove his claim about the crime statistics.[37]Β After the publication of London crime figures in June 2010,Β The Sunday TelegraphΒ suggested Liddle was largely right on some of his claims, but that he was probably wrong on his claims about knife crimes and violent sex crimes.[38] In October 2010, Liddle called for the abolition of theΒ Welsh languageΒ TV channelΒ S4CΒ as a result of the 2010 Comprehensive Spending Review. In his article forΒ The Spectator, he described Welsh nationalists as "miserable, seaweed munching, sheep-bothering pinch-faced hill-tribes".[39] On 23 May 2013, Liddle wrote about the murder of soldierΒ Lee RigbyΒ near theΒ Royal Artillery BarracksΒ in Woolwich, London. In the original version of a blog article forΒ The Spectator, he referred to the perpetrators as "two black savages".[40]Β After many objections to his language use,[41]Β this phrase was modified.[42]Β Liddle apologised.[40][43] Giving a speech atΒ Durham UniversityΒ in December 2021, Liddle said: "It is fairly easily proven that colonialism is not remotely the major cause of Africa's problems, just as it is very easy to prove that the educational underachievement of British people of Caribbean descent or African Americans is nothing to do with institutional or structural racism."[44] IndependentΒ editor rumour and Millwall supporters' website The GuardianΒ reported on 8 January 2010 that the expected purchase ofΒ The IndependentΒ byΒ Alexander Lebedev, a Russian billionaire, would be followed by the appointment of Liddle as editor.[45]Β Roy GreensladeΒ wrote on 11 January that the reports were provoking a "major internal and external revolt" byΒ The Independent's staff and readers.[46]Β The stories about Liddle's posts on Millwall Online apparently further reduced the likelihood of his being offered the job.[47]Β Finally, on 19 February, Stephen Brook ofΒ The GuardianΒ reported that Liddle was no longer in the running for the post.[48]Β Tim Luckhurst, professor of journalism at theΒ University of Kent, argued that Liddle's prospects of editingΒ The IndependentΒ were nullified "by the people behind a viciously intolerant campaign of liberal bigotry".[49] In January 2010, the press drew attention to allegedly racist and misogynist comments posted under the username "monkeymfc"β€”a name Liddle has usedβ€”on Millwall Online, a fan club web forum with no official connection toΒ Millwall Football Club. Liddle attributed some of the comments to opposition fans logging in under his name to embarrass him. He later said he had written some of the posts that were being criticised, including one in support of the BNP excluding Black and Asian people from the party.[50]Β Another post, in which he joked about not being able to smoke atΒ Auschwitz,[51]Β led to his being asked to explain what he meant inΒ The Jewish Chronicle.[47]Β While he said in June 2014 that his comments were taken out of context, he said that he did not regret making them. "No. Never. Absolutely not. I thought about my mates at Millwall Online, God I respect them so much more than these other people, these ghastly f**king people."[31] Stephen Lawrence, disabled and transgender people In November 2011, an article by Liddle forΒ The SpectatorΒ suggested the trial of two men accused (and later convicted) of murderingΒ Stephen LawrenceΒ would not be fair.[52]Β It was referred to the Attorney GeneralΒ Dominic GrieveΒ by the judge for possible contempt of court,[53]Β and he ordered the jurors not to read it. Having decided that it might have breached a court order, Grieve passed the case on to theΒ Crown Prosecution ServiceΒ and the Director of Public Prosecutions.[54]Β The decision thatΒ The SpectatorΒ was to be prosecuted by the CPS for breaching reporting restrictions was announced on 9 May 2012, with a court hearing scheduled for 7 June, although Liddle as the author was not himself liable for prosecution.Β Fraser Nelson, the magazine's editor, announced that the prosecution would not be contested,[55]Β and the magazine pleaded guilty at the hearing. The fine was Β£3,000, plus Β£2,000 compensation to Stephen Lawrence's parents and Β£625 costs.[56] In January 2012, Liddle wrote that many people in the UK were "pretending to be disabled" in his column forΒ The Sun,[57]Β an opinion defended byΒ James Delingpole.[58]Β Frances Ryan inΒ The GuardianΒ accused him of "belittling something that on a daily basis affects real people" who can be "a huge benefit to society. Maybe for a month Liddle would like to try that."[59] In May 2015, theΒ Independent Press Standards OrganisationΒ (IPSO) upheld a complaint fromΒ Trans Media WatchΒ that Liddle had been discriminatory towardsΒ Emily Brothers, a blind andΒ transgenderΒ Labour candidate at theΒ 2015 general election, in twoΒ SunΒ columns published in December 2014 and January 2015. In commenting in the way he had Liddle had breached two sections of the editors' code.[60][61] Column on poppers and gay sex During aΒ parliamentary debateΒ on the Psychoactive Substances Bill – which "makes it an offence to produce, supply, offer to supply, possess with intent to supply, possess on custodial premises, import or exportΒ psychoactive substances"[65]Β theΒ ConservativeΒ politicianΒ Crispin BluntΒ admitted he usedΒ poppers: Liddle responded in hisΒ SpectatorΒ blog: TheΒ satiricalΒ andΒ current affairsΒ magazineΒ Private EyeΒ described this as hypocritical, pointing out Liddle's account inΒ The Sunday TimesΒ of usingΒ ViagraΒ in July 2004.[68][69] A spokesperson from theΒ LGBT rightsΒ charityΒ StonewallΒ said of Liddle's remarks: "Comments like this are shocking and damaging, but we wouldn't expect anything less from repeat offending bigots like Rod Liddle."[70] Column on Muslim voters In October 2019, Liddle penned a column inΒ The SpectatorΒ commenting on the forthcomingΒ December 2019 UK general election, which suggested that the election should be held on a Muslim holy day to reduce the Labour vote. The column was criticised by senior political figures including Chancellor of the ExchequerΒ Sajid JavidΒ and former ConservativeΒ Deputy Prime MinisterΒ David Lidington. Liddle defended the content as being humorous. The article also criticised the Labour MPΒ Rosie Duffield's recent speech about her experience of trying to exit an abusive relationship; Duffield described the article as "racist and misogynistic".[74]
    • A true social democrat
    • I thought the same thing I thought when Baresi went which is there sure is a hell of alot of people who don't make the new pension age.
  • Featured Products

  • Hot Topics

  • Latest Tourdates

Γ—
Γ—
  • Create New...