news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

And Corbyn and co can join a trots party and have thre irrelevance they crave.

kin'ell....it's all trots this and centrists that.....feckin tedious.

[topmarksbri]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

kin'ell....it's all trots this and centrists that.....feckin tedious.

This thread has quite a predictable cycle of news comes out - it's interpreted by people in the way they think suits them best - we all call each other centrists/corbynites and that the other side is out of touch for x/y/z reason - repeat ad naseum 

[mattiloy]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

German Green party are kind of centrist.

Anyway, I just wish we had PR and labour could split. Sick of the factionalism. Save it for when they are in coalition.

Thats the thing, bickering and deal cutting is what politicians get paid for - it shouldn't be expected of us to have to compromise on our beliefs and be forced to hopelessly vote for the least worst option forever more.

Lets have it! All non-tory parties stand a PR candidate at the next election on a 1-point manifesto - to immediately implement PR and hold a new election a month later.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, topmarksbri said:

This thread has quite a predictable cycle of news comes out - it's interpreted by people in the way they think suits them best - we all call each other centrists/corbynites and that the other side is out of touch for x/y/z reason - repeat ad naseum 

I don’t care which side of the Labour Party does it, I just want them to get the Tories out of power.

[steviewevie]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/apr/15/bbc-wont-have-wall-to-wall-coverage-of-prince-philip-funeral-after-record-complaints

[Haan]

Just now, steviewevie said:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/apr/15/bbc-wont-have-wall-to-wall-coverage-of-prince-philip-funeral-after-record-complaints

this will bring the thread together ❤️

[eFestivals]

18 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Thats the thing, bickering and deal cutting is what politicians get paid for - it shouldn't be expected of us to have to compromise on our beliefs and be forced to hopelessly vote for the least worst option forever more.

Which has been Corbyn's whole career as he was more socialist worker than labor And never a worker he's never had a real job.

 

18 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

 

 

[Crazyfool01]

11 minutes ago, Haan said:

this will bring the thread together ❤️

I am laughing about the complaints that people made that the bbc made it too easy to complain though 🙂 ... I wonder if any of those complaints got complained about ... 

Edited April 15, 2021 by crazyfool1

[mattiloy]

4 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Which has been Corbyn's whole career as he was more socialist worker than labor And never a worker he's never had a real job.

 

 

👍 Keir Starmer is a fascist

[Crazyfool01]

9 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Which has been Corbyn's whole career as he was more socialist worker than labor And never a worker he's never had a real job.

 

 

You have quite a deep hatred of corbyn which I hadn’t quite realised when I saw you at the efest meet a few years back in the corbyn tshirt  ... my dad was quite a keen Labour Party member back in the day but was telling me he never liked him because he rarely smiled and when he did it seemed to be lacking genuiness . Hopefully sometime we get a Labour Party that is able to stand out and muster enough support to be a thing once again ... kier needs to cut it much better though ... and not his hair !! 

[Gilgamesh69]

17 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Which has been Corbyn's whole career as he was more socialist worker than labor And never a worker he's never had a real job.

 

 

Oh my days will you ever stop going on about Corbyn? Anyone would think he lives in your head rent-free

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

Oh my days will you ever stop going on about Corbyn? Anyone would think he lives in your head rent-free

He's been living on the labour party rentfree.mtycomnents were on topic for where the topic has gone lateoy with talk ofbpr and splits onbidealogical linesco red corbvyn has never fitted within labours aims.

 

[fraybentos1]

17 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

You have quite a deep hatred of corbyn which I hadn’t quite realised when I saw you at the efest meet a few years back in the corbyn tshirt  ... my dad was quite a keen Labour Party member back in the day but was telling me he never liked him because he rarely smiled and when he did it seemed to be lacking genuiness . Hopefully sometime we get a Labour Party that is able to stand out and muster enough support to be a thing once again ... kier needs to cut it much better though ... and not his hair !! 

@eFestivalswas wearing a Corbyn t shirt?! What happened to make you hate him so much since having a t shirt of him @eFestivals?

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

@eFestivalswas wearing a Corbyn t shirt?! What happened to make you hate him so much since having a t shirt of him @eFestivals?

I think it was a running joke because of his dislike for him ... some kind of bet maybe ? At the time I didn’t dip into the politics thread very much ... 

[fraybentos1]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

I think it was a running joke because of his dislike for him ... some kind of bet maybe ? At the time I didn’t dip into the politics thread very much ... 

Ah I see, I thought you meant he used to be a fan of Corbyn!

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

Ah I see, I thought you meant he used to be a fan of Corbyn!

Awaits Neil’s response with interest 🙂 

[eFestivals]

9 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

@eFestivalswas wearing a Corbyn t shirt?! What happened to make you hate him so much since having a t shirt of him @eFestivals?

It might have been a piss take i wasnt doing the jezza chant 

Never hated him always realised he was a poor choice if you wanted Labour to win. I hate the attitudes of many who supported him because they wew I d to the problem they were causing. 

Edited April 15, 2021 by eFestivals

[topmarksbri]

20 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

Oh my days will you ever stop going on about Corbyn? Anyone would think he lives in your head rent-free

tbh feel much the same about you and big bad centrists

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, topmarksbri said:

tbh feel much the same about you and big bad centrists

Centrists who actually want Labour to win. 

[Gilgamesh69]

4 minutes ago, topmarksbri said:

tbh feel much the same about you and big bad centrists

Difference is that centrists are relevant now, what with Starmer being the leader of the so-called opposition. Corbyn is no longer particularly relevant anymore, and yet his haters still keep going on about him.

 

 

[Gilgamesh69]

4 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Centrists who actually want Labour to win. 

What good is Labour winning if they're just going to be a bunch of blue Tories????

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

What good is Labour winning if they're just going to be a bunch of blue Tories????

Because no lives were improved during Blair's time.??

How are you enjoying a wage that can't be utterly shit. Schools without leaking rooves and pre pandemic short hospital waiting lists.

[eFestivals]

4 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

What good is Labour winning if they're just going to be a bunch of blue Tories????

What good is a l weleftwing labour party without thep power to improve anyone's life.

[steviewevie]

Paul Mason on R4 just now saying there needs to be an alliance of the centre and the left...citing Biden.

So there.

Edited April 15, 2021 by steviewevie

[eFestivals]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Paul Mason on R4 just now saying there needs to be an alliance of the centre and the left.

So there.

Which would be Labour if the bitter corbynites could hold their tongues.and which would have been the brexitstopping GNU if someone s vanity hadn't have got in the way and if the SNP hadn't wanted to strengthen the tories a habit of theirs.

Edited April 15, 2021 by eFestivals