Hugh Jass Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Can’t pretend I didn’t celebrate Germany’s winner. I have a substantial bet that’s contingent on them winning the group so there’s still a sliver of hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: I remember the French squad being a mess in 2006, failing to win their first 2 games and reaching the final with Domenech as manager! Were they a mess in 2006? I thought that was the other two tournaments. 19 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: I disagree, but then again I don’t have a horse in the race. While Germany going out would be amusing, your left with Sweden stinking out the knockouts. I don’t want a World Cup like 2002 with only one decent side in the semis. If Germany 2002 weren't decent then I don't see how this German side would increase the status of the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, dentalplan said: Were they a mess in 2006? I thought that was the other two tournaments. If Germany 2002 weren't decent then I don't see how this German side would increase the status of the tournament. On the pitch they were a mess, off the pitch not as bad as other tournaments but Domenech fell out with a few players. I think Germany 2002 were the worst World Cup German side I have seen. A 2 Man (Khan and Ballack team) with a lucky draw through to the final. Typical even bad Germany comes second! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Why are russia doing so well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Dansons Wig Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, zahidf said: Why are russia doing so well? Going to take a bit more than a few dodgy steroids to help them when they come across a decent team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 FOOTBALLS COMING HOME NAME. ON. THE. TROPHY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomThomDrum Posted June 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Sterling has to score that first half chance. Very poor from him IMO. Heads that into the ground, like all schools kids are thaught, and it’s a goal. If he does nothing in the second I think Southgate needs to consider dropping him. You don’t want under performing players on the field in the knockout stages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 56 minutes ago, zahidf said: FOOTBALLS COMING HOME NAME. ON. THE. TROPHY The Lightning Seeds right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Result was exactly what you'd expect really. Exhibition match on Thursday now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, WS_Jack_III said: Result was exactly what you'd expect really. Exhibition match on Thursday now. I'm not as certain that it's s game both teams will try to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 An England v Russia world cup final could be interesting from a politics perspective. I would fnd it hilarious watching Theresa May having to fake interest in a football match, while Corbyn would have the tough decision which team to support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, WS_Jack_III said: Result was exactly what you'd expect really. Exhibition match on Thursday now. I’m lumping on 0-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, ThomThomDrum said: Sterling has to score that first half chance. Very poor from him IMO. Heads that into the ground, like all schools kids are thaught, and it’s a goal. If he does nothing in the second I think Southgate needs to consider dropping him. You don’t want under performing players on the field in the knockout stages he did get a couple of assists! Sterling is a confidence player: dropping him would be a mistake IMO. We are not talking about a duff player here. We are discussing the second highest-performing English player in the Premier League last season, who is struggling slightly for form at international level. Getting Sterling at his peak in this tournament will be key to England’s chances of surpassing reasonable expectation. Why would you not want to maximise the chances of that happening? Edited June 24, 2018 by zahidf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, pink_triangle said: I'm not as certain that it's s game both teams will try to lose. i think the confidence from a win is more important that a potentially favourable draw Also Croatia and mexico have been better than Germany and Brazil so far this world cup. So i think coming second wont be THAT beneficial Edited June 24, 2018 by zahidf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, zahidf said: i think the confidence from a win is more important that a potentially favourable draw I agree. I see both England and Belgium in that tier below the big boys. Beating a team in that tier will give 2 teams who lost to smaller nations in the Euros confidence they can make that next step. England and Belgium are full of top premiership players and have comfortably beat two nations I’m not convinced are championship standard, I would want to be tested a little more before the knockouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) I think Brazil will drop into 2nd and scupper any talk of choice quarter finals anyway. The second round isn't gonna be a piece of piss anyroad so I'd rather we play whoever only manages 2nd in H. Edited June 24, 2018 by dentalplan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, zahidf said: he did get a couple of assists! We’re counting missing a sitter as an assist now? 27 minutes ago, zahidf said: We are not talking about a duff player here. We are discussing the second highest-performing English player in the Premier League last season, Hmm sounds like misguided opinion based on duff statistics to me. 27 minutes ago, zahidf said: who is struggling slightly for form at international level. Slightly? Slight understatement. 27 minutes ago, zahidf said: Getting Sterling at his peak in this tournament will be key to England’s chances of surpassing reasonable expectation. Why would you not want to maximise the chances of that happening? More supposition based on zilch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 There’s a case to be made for Poland as the worst team of the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 49 minutes ago, zahidf said: We are discussing the second highest-performing English player in the Premier League last season Using what criteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: Using what criteria? assists/goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, zahidf said: assists/goals It seems a little unfair using those criteria to compare with Pickford or Gary Cahill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: It seems a little unfair using those criteria to compare with Pickford or Gary Cahill. fair but in terms of his competition for his place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 hours ago, zahidf said: he did get a couple of assists! Sterling is a confidence player: dropping him would be a mistake IMO. I’ve not seen any of the England games, keeping him in because it would affect his confidence seems naff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, thetime said: I’ve not seen any of the England games, keeping him in because it would affect his confidence seems naff. well not if its the only reason! he is a good player IMO. hes a little off but i dont think he is terrible. Southgate has his starting 11 and is going to stick to it barring injury. missing a couple of chances when you win 6-1 is hardly end of the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Dansons Wig Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) After watching Columbia tonight and with Brazil possibly dropping into 2nd - trying to play for a certain result is a waste of time imo. whichever way - we will come up against some real test before we get to the business end Edited June 24, 2018 by Ted Dansons Wig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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