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tickets and how it could be done better


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Not everyone has the benefit of trying for tickets in groups. None of my friends are interested in going any more.

The thing about people wanting to 'do' Glastonbury is the inherent problem. Mummy and Daddy forking out for them to 'do' festivals, their gap yaaa etc.

Maybe I'll just wait until festivals are no longer fashionable. Or maybe it's the universe telling me that at 40 I'm too old and Glastonbury is now a young people's game requiring big groups and fast internet connections.

 

My aunty wanted to 'do Glastonbury'. She was 60. She done it.

 

Piss off with your bitter generalisations.

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Wasn't having a go, I imagine most of us on here are the people in our groups that make the most effort. On an effort basis, I'd say everyone on here deserves to go. A lot of the friends we all got tickets for? Not so much :D

 

 

It might be. "Free time" isn't a luxury we all have in the same amount. A single mother of three working two jobs isn't going to have as much time as a student to do that revision.

 

 

 

You are like Gareth from the office when he takes issue with the chicken/fox/grain analogy! Its a simple analogy, there is no convoluted back story, you aren't a single mum of three, you are a person with plenty of free time taking an exam at the same time as somebody with the same IQ and the same amount time on their hands.

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You are like Gareth from the office when he takes issue with the chicken/fox/grain analogy! Its a simple analogy, there is no convoluted back story, you aren't a single mum of three, you are a person with plenty of free time taking an exam at the same time as somebody with the same IQ and the same amount time on their hands.

Then the analogy is flawed as its not representative of the Glastonbury ticket process.

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Glastonbury stop booking big name Pop / Heavy Rock Metal / Rap Acts. Announce the full line-up before tickets go on sale. This will put a lot of people off going and make it a better festival IMO.

What Heavy Rock Metal acts were there this year? I lost track after Motorhead and Enter Shikari

 

Not everyone has the benefit of trying for tickets in groups. None of my friends are interested in going any more.

The thing about people wanting to 'do' Glastonbury is the inherent problem. Mummy and Daddy forking out for them to 'do' festivals, their gap yaaa etc.

Maybe I'll just wait until festivals are no longer fashionable. Or maybe it's the universe telling me that at 40 I'm too old and Glastonbury is now a young people's game requiring big groups and fast internet connections.

Do you hate everything?

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I also think this lose your deposit system is also a bit silly. If people put it down as a maybe then find out they can't go the ticket goes back into the system. Yes, it is a pain if you're trying to book time off work but no tickets enter or leave the system so I don't understand the problem. I think it is good that you get it refunded if you can't go which most festivals aren't willing to do

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If there's no cost to getting the deposit back, presumably a lot of people might try to buy tickets just in case they might want to go and then not feel obliged to actually go if something better (yeah I know) comes up.

 

This means that people like the good folk on this forum, who definitely want to go, might not getting tickets in the main sale and so book something else next year.

 

What I'm saying is it makes you think about whether you're actually going or not.

 

This is all guesswork of course I don't know what GFL are thinking :)

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I also think this lose your deposit system is also a bit silly. If people put it down as a maybe then find out they can't go the ticket goes back into the system. Yes, it is a pain if you're trying to book time off work but no tickets enter or leave the system so I don't understand the problem. I think it is good that you get it refunded if you can't go which most festivals aren't willing to do

 

"Can't go" and "waiting to see if you fancy it closer to the time" are 2 completely different things though.

 

If you find out you can't go to a normal gig you can't get a refund unless you've bought refund protection as part of your ticket - even then you'd need a doctor's note or a Police incident/crime number.

 

If they keep the mid-May refund thing it still means they're doing more than other festivals etc.

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Well she's part of the problem too then. People didn't used to 'do' Glastonbury, they lived it.

haha, your posts have made me laugh this afternoon.  do you naturally write in hackneyed cliches, or is it something you work at? 

 

either way, top work Top Glasto Liver.

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Well she's part of the problem too then. People didn't used to 'do' Glastonbury, they lived it.

 

You don't own Glastonbury or get to define who's allowed in and who's not.

 

The whole ethos of the place is pluralistic and open. It's part of the foundation of the entire festival.

 

So long as people enjoy themselves aren't we all good?

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Here is what is going to happen.

 

They will keep upping the price, it will continue to sell out in less than an hour every year.

 

Eventually they will also be able to make us pay the full ticket balance on T-Day - and then not announce a bean before the festival opens.

 

They will long continue to sell out and do as they please because why not!

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You don't own Glastonbury or get to define who's allowed in and who's not.

 

The whole ethos of the place is pluralistic and open. It's part of the foundation of the entire festival.

 

So long as people enjoy themselves aren't we all good?

 

 

I can think of plenty of people who shouldnt be made to feel welcome at glastonbury.

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It's not though. You've listed three things there. That it's the best system is arguably true. That it's the easiest for the festival to use is nonsense - if they wanted that they wouldn't bother with pre-registration and so on. Just let the tickets go on the open market.

 

It's not the fairest either. It contains designed biased towards rewarding effort and some preparation (and group sizes of exactly six) - it's specifically designed not to give everybody an equal chance. If you actually want to give everyone an equal chance, a ballot system does that.

 

 

Why shouldn't it?

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Accessibility is the only issue I have with the process - in that some people simply can't fill out the booking form and the payment details in the time provided.

If you get in (past the holding page) and then have 10 minutes guaranteed to complete it (like other sites) then that would be fairer.

Or maybe, have had the chance to pre-fill the form and payment details prior to the holding page - the holding page in this case just being a pure lottery/gateway to "Thanks" or "Sorry".

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You don't own Glastonbury or get to define who's allowed in and who's not.

 

The whole ethos of the place is pluralistic and open. It's part of the foundation of the entire festival.

 

So long as people enjoy themselves aren't we all good?

It's not as pluralistic and open as it could be though. It's biased towards tech-savvy people with fast internet.

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It's not as pluralistic and open as it could be though. It's biased towards tech-savvy people with fast internet.

 

You're taking my reply out of context.

 

Also you don't have to be tech-savvy, you just have to have internet access. I'm a professional software developer and have never got through to the booking page myself.

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You're taking my reply out of context.

 

Also you don't have to be tech-savvy, you just have to have internet access. I'm a professional software developer and have never got through to the booking page myself.

Ok maybe not tech-savvy but being aware of strategies like regularly refreshing pages and having multiple browsers open. You've never got through? How many years have you been trying?

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Ok maybe not tech-savvy but being aware of strategies like regularly refreshing pages and having multiple browsers open. You've never got through? How many years have you been trying?

 

This is my sixth Glastonbury! Good job I know luckier people cos I get shit ;)  Actually I think one year I saw the reg details page but by the time I'd entered the details it had sold out :(

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    • It would be piss-easy for a bot to manage, though.
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