Madonna, hot topic....

[Purple aki squat]

Except she does write her own stuff & can play multiple instruments. She worked her way up in the New York club scene from a backing dancer, to a drummer in a post punk band (The Breakfast club) to a solo performer (she even supported the Smiths on a US date in the early 80's). She sacked the producer of her first studio album because she wasn't happy with the direction of it, that hardly screams manufactured pop artist to me.

I stand corrected

[russycarps]

I stand corrected

You were not completely wrong though. Over a quarter of the songs on her greatest hits album were written by other people, with no writing credit for madonna at all.

[russycarps]

Why does other people's fun bother you?

what a peculiar conclusion to have reached.

[Hugh Jass]

what a peculiar conclusion to have reached.

What conclusion should I have reached?

Clearly you have an issue with Kanye/Beyonce/Madonna fans, as well as Tories/UKIPPERS (that's fine) and deem them in some way unworthy of attendance. You said yourself that you found mingling with them "grotesque" despite there not being any real way to spot them - unless they were performing in which case you'd probably be somewhere else anyway.

I think my conclusion was apt.

[MichaelsBeard]

Has there actually been anything to sufficently link her with playing?

Can't see it been her and Kanye in the same year personally. Could happen though I suppose.

[FloorFiller]

Has there actually been anything to sufficently link her with playing?

Can't see it been her and Kanye in the same year personally. Could happen though I suppose.

just the Radio 2 interview in the same week as we're assuming the lineup is released

[The Nal]

Has there actually been anything to sufficently link her with playing?

Nothing apart from the fact that her tour starts in August and ends in December. 2016 would be too late. But this year looks too early.

[russycarps]

What conclusion should I have reached?

Clearly you have an issue with Kanye/Beyonce/Madonna fans, as well as Tories/UKIPPERS (that's fine) and deem them in some way unworthy of attendance. You said yourself that you found mingling with them "grotesque" despite there not being any real way to spot them - unless they were performing in which case you'd probably be somewhere else anyway.

I think my conclusion was apt.

I base my opinion of these people on what I have seen and read about the wireless crowd. I prefer not to mix with people like that and dont want glastonbury to end up like that. Do you?

Similarly I prefer not to mix with football fans, having read about and witnessed first-hand their behaviour. Last I heard they were stopping black people getting on trains, or has there been something more recent than that? I cant keep up

[CaledonianGonzo]

just the Radio 2 interview in the same week as we're assuming the lineup is released

And the fact that - at this stage - there are so few other feasible candidates.

[ThomThomDrum]

Similarly I prefer not to mix with football fans, having read about and witnessed first-hand their behaviour. Last I heard they were stopping black people getting on trains, or has there been something more recent than that? I cant keep up

Hmmm. Tad bit of tarring going on here no?

Were they not racists who like football? As opposed to simply just football fans.

I know for a fact you have mingled at Glastonbury with football fans and loved it!

[ghostdancer1]

i'm relatively new here, so is russycarps on a wind-up, or actually this ignorant, close-minded and thick all the time?

[CaledonianGonzo]

Only prejudice and snobbery can preserve the Glastonbury I grew up with!

[russycarps]

Hmmm. Tad bit of tarring going on here no?

Were they not racists who like football? As opposed to simply just football fans.

I know for a fact you have mingled at Glastonbury with football fans and loved it!

Yes I will grudgingly admit not all football fans are tits I suppose.

[EZYSEY]

God I hope its not Madonna. I have a horrible feeling its young to be though with the amount of TV appearances she's done recently. Kanye done the same in the run up to his announcement trying to get everyone to like him.

[Winslow Leach]

God I hope its not Madonna. I have a horrible feeling its young to be though with the amount of TV appearances she's done recently. Kanye done the same in the run up to his announcement trying to get everyone to like him.

I love that people keep sharing this video with the intended message 'Kany West is an idiot lol!' rather than 'Paparazzi really are awful, aren't they?'

[Tim2006]

What a tit

Yes I will grudgingly admit not all football fans are tits I suppose.

[The Nal]

I love that people keep sharing this video with the intended message 'Kany West is an idiot lol!' rather than 'Paparazzi really are awful, aren't they?'

A person can't shamelessly court the press and then turn around and complain when they're outside restaurants waiting for them. You're either in or you're out when it comes to that sort of thing.

[russycarps]

I love that people keep sharing this video with the intended message 'Kany West is an idiot lol!' rather than 'Paparazzi really are awful, aren't they?'

Yeh I feel sorry for him there. That must have hurt like hell. Also I am amazed he kept his cool. Fair play to him.

[The Nal]

I love that people keep sharing this video with the intended message 'Kany West is an idiot lol!' rather than 'Paparazzi really are awful, aren't they?'

They're both awful.

[Wooderson]

Madonna has never played a UK festival - and, other than Glastonbury, likely won't. Her playing wouldn't turn Glastonbury into anything else - all it would do would be to further single it out as the festival that attracts headliners that other festivals can't.

This a thousand times.

[Hugh Jass]

I base my opinion of these people on what I have seen and read about the wireless crowd. I prefer not to mix with people like that and dont want glastonbury to end up like that. Do you?

Similarly I prefer not to mix with football fans, having read about and witnessed first-hand their behaviour. Last I heard they were stopping black people getting on trains, or has there been something more recent than that? I cant keep up

And you think booking Madonna will lead the festival's descent into anarchy? A festival that sold out months in advance before any names were released? I don't recall the festival being overrun by these types after Jay-Z played, or Beyonce for that matter.

There's been a lot of guff written and said about "the spirit of Glastonbury", like I said earlier, I've been close to ten times now and I don't even know what it is. However I'm pretty sure that judging people based solely on the music they enjoy is the polar opposite to what it is.

As for football fans, really? That's the best you've got? Do you know how many hundreds of thousands of people attend football matches every weekend? Yes there some real idiots out there but 99% of them are normal, decent people. You cannot judge an entire culture by the actions of one or two idiots. I regularly go to support my team, but have managed to refrain from racially abusing anyone, starting fights, throwing charis around, etc and neither have any of my friends.

[Wooderson]

And you think booking Madonna will lead the festival's descent into anarchy? A festival that sold out months in advance before any names were released? I don't recall the festival being overrun by these types after Jay-Z played, or Beyonce for that matter.

There's been a lot of guff written and said about "the spirit of Glastonbury", like I said earlier, I've been close to ten times now and I don't even know what it is. However I'm pretty sure that judging people based solely on the music they enjoy is the polar opposite to what it is.

As for football fans, really? That's the best you've got? Do you know how many hundreds of thousands of people attend football matches every weekend? Yes there some real idiots out there but 99% of them are normal, decent people. You cannot judge an entire culture by the actions of one or two idiots. I regularly go to support my team, but have managed to refrain from racially abusing anyone, starting fights, throwing charis around, etc and neither have any of my friends.

Killer post man.

[russycarps]

And you think booking Madonna will lead the festival's descent into anarchy? A festival that sold out months in advance before any names were released? I don't recall the festival being overrun by these types after Jay-Z played, or Beyonce for that matter.

There's been a lot of guff written and said about "the spirit of Glastonbury", like I said earlier, I've been close to ten times now and I don't even know what it is. However I'm pretty sure that judging people based solely on the music they enjoy is the polar opposite to what it is.

As for football fans, really? That's the best you've got? Do you know how many hundreds of thousands of people attend football matches every weekend? Yes there some real idiots out there but 99% of them are normal, decent people. You cannot judge an entire culture by the actions of one or two idiots. I regularly go to support my team, but have managed to refrain from racially abusing anyone, starting fights, throwing charis around, etc and neither have any of my friends.

the festival definitely has a higher number of "these types" after Jay z and beyonce. And that number will rise again after this years headline acts.

And at the same time the festival will get just that little bit shitter.

[Big Vern]

I'm sure I have, but that is not the beauty of the festival.

In fact, that's the ugly, grotesque side of it.

There is a very clear ugly, grotesque side of it being displayed right there.

[russycarps]

Edited March 30, 2015 by russycarps