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no doubt about it, Ian Watkins is a nonce


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These things I've read don't even make me feel a gut reaction of hatred or sickness, they're so far removed from any identifiable part of reality for me that I all I feel instinctively is confusion. Obviously I can consciously recognise that he's done the most heinous things a person can do, it's so far out of any frame of reference that it doesn't even really register, I might as well be reading fiction in a language I've never encountered, I just can't take it in as something that happened. Every new detail that emerges is even more unimaginably over-the-top grotesque than the last, the assembled hoards of Reddit couldn't have made this up. I'm probably just saving my own sanity to be honest, I'll be most likely much better off if I never think of this again.

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These things I've read don't even make me feel a gut reaction of hatred or sickness, they're so far removed from any identifiable part of reality for me that I all I feel instinctively is confusion. Obviously I can consciously recognise that he's done the most heinous things a person can do, it's so far out of any frame of reference that it doesn't even really register, I might as well be reading fiction in a language I've never encountered, I just can't take it in as something that happened. Every new detail that emerges is even more unimaginably over-the-top grotesque than the last, the assembled hoards of Reddit couldn't have made this up. I'm probably just saving my own sanity to be honest, I'll be most likely much better off if I never think of this again.

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As its such a high profile case with large public interest, I'd be surprised if they didn't go for the maximum sentence.There's very little difference in the eyes of the law between rape and attempted rape and the punishment reflects this. It's why the prosecution settled for what he pleaded guilty too.

The way its been reported, it seems like the prosecution could have put forward a strong case for actual rape with video evidence which they decided not to show to spare the jurors as their would be very little difference in his sentence.

As for an actual exact time, its hard to say with so many seperate convictions, I'd be floored if it was less than 15 years though.

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Personally as a parent, I find what they did even more appalling. They were in a position of trust and responsible for a human life and that's how they chose to act. My son is only a month younger than one of the victims and I just can't understand/comprehend how even thinking of those things even happens. Part of all their punishments should be to be neutered imo.

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I agree they are as sick if not worse for allowing their kids to be used like this its depravity in its most appalling form, I think they will both serve hefty sentences and I think that beast will be looking at 20+ mainly for the age of the intended victims who had absolutely no say in what was happening/going to happen to them

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I personally agree that the mothers are as bad, if not worse than Watkins. It takes a sicko to even think about raping someone, yet alone a minor, but it takes a worse kind of sicko, for allowing a paedophile take advantage of your child, and giving permission for it to happen!

Watkins is a disgusting man. He clearly has something wrong with him, and clearly has a screw loose. They need to lock away the key there.

But all it would take is going straight to the police and he'd have went years ago.

Problem solved.

The whole 'i*Kids' password thing, is mind boggling. Why would you be so stupid, it's lkke a frape! Idiot. What's more baffling, is after the Jimmy Saville case of last year, why would he even keep the pictures? Bigger dickhead.

The whole thing is disgusting. It saddens me that anyone human could be this low. Vile scum. Their own child, they allowed to be Mollested.

Hard to sleep after reading them reports now.

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This man is a significant danger to the general population. He shouldn't be let out for a very long time. At least he is off the streets now, I just hope that there is nobody that had evidence that could have got this scumbag off the street earlier.

It will be interesting to see how fans of the band will react to this. The band are tainted forever and will never grace radio or tv again. Personally if it happened to a band I liked, the digital files would be deleted and the cds in the bin.

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Doesn't work like that though pink I'm afraid, people will still put stars on a pedestal. Have people put The Who's albums in the bin? Christ people still want them to headline festivals, people may sat Pete watermen crimes were no where near as bad but kids are abused for these people to view.

Then you have jacko still put on a pedestal, then you have glitter who has been chastised.

It's never quite so simple.

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