The Dirty Independence Question

[LJS]

[LJS]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

You mean Scots have stopped it going thru 

[steviewevie]

UK govt has said it could seek to prevent it becoming law by blocking Royal Assent.

Boom!

[LJS]

46 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

UK govt has said it could seek to prevent it becoming law by blocking Royal Assent.

Boom!

boom indeed!!

it would be interesting to see how that goes down up here!!

[Neil]

53 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

UK govt has said it could seek to prevent it becoming law by blocking Royal Assent.

Boom!

Hope that they have strong justification for doing that. 

[LJS]

20 minutes ago, Neil said:

Hope that they have strong justification for doing that. 

Of course they don't.

[steviewevie]

21 minutes ago, Neil said:

Hope that they have strong justification for doing that. 

protecting women or something.

[Neil]

LJS wants to suggest that there is no snp position to the bill, but nine snp msps voted against it 

[LJS]

Just now, Neil said:

LJS wants to suggest that there is no snp position to the bill, but nine snp msps voted against it 

The SNP supported the bill. I have never suggested otherwise. it was a Scottish Government bill and the Scottish Government is made up of the SNP & the Greens.

Whilst it may be relatively unusual in the SNP, MPs and MSPs rebelling against their party is hardly unknown, particularly when it comes to matters like this.

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, LJS said:

The SNP supported the bill. I have never suggested otherwise. it was a Scottish Government bill and the Scottish Government is made up of the SNP & the Greens.

Whilst it may be relatively unusual in the SNP, MPs and MSPs rebelling against their party is hardly unknown, particularly when it comes to matters like this.

yeah, I expect a similar vote in westminster would be the same...splits within parties...

[lost]

Left wing parties are the traditional place for feminists and this issue seems to split them between 3rd wave and 4th wave feminists. The other issue that appears to split them is sex work being real work vs exploitation by men. Strange that the SNP appear to side with the 3rd wave feminists on that by backing the Nordic model.

[Neil]

35 minutes ago, LJS said:

The SNP supported the bill. I have never suggested otherwise. it was a Scottish Government bill and the Scottish Government is made up of the SNP & the Greens.

Whilst it may be relatively unusual in the SNP, MPs and MSPs rebelling against their party is hardly unknown, particularly when it comes to matters like this.

its very unusual snp mps disagreeing with the party, the party is perfect and beyond criticism.

[Neil]

changing of gender is fine, its the side issues impacted by that which people don't have workable answers for.

[steviewevie]

36 minutes ago, lost said:

Left wing parties are the traditional place for feminists and this issue seems to split them between 3rd wave and 4th wave feminists. The other issue that appears to split them is sex work being real work vs exploitation by men. Strange that the SNP appear to side with the 3rd wave feminists on that by backing the Nordic model.

I wonder what the 5th wave will think?

[Neil]

now that Croatia has joined the euro, snippers will have to campaign saying Scotland will adopt the euro within a decade of joining the eu., instead of going with the big lie that they can avoid it. also that joining the  eu is likely to bring about a hard border with rUK within a decade  as Scotland will also join  the  Schengen zone.

[LJS]

3 hours ago, Neil said:

now that Croatia has joined the euro, snippers will have to campaign saying Scotland will adopt the euro within a decade of joining the eu., instead of going with the big lie that they can avoid it. also that joining the  eu is likely to bring about a hard border with rUK within a decade  as Scotland will also join  the  Schengen zone.

So we can join the EU, I take it Neil?

Happy new year.

[Neil]

4 hours ago, LJS said:

So we can join the EU, I take it Neil?

Happy new year.

you can join if the EU accepts you as a new member, it will have conditions, such as "you have to join the euro" (and everything else that involves such as a balanced budget ~~[spending cuts], and schengen).

[steviewevie]

41 minutes ago, Neil said:

you can join if the EU accepts you as a new member, it will have conditions, such as "you have to join the euro" (and everything else that involves such as a balanced budget ~~[spending cuts], and schengen).

sounds great.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

sounds great.

So great that the snp will spend the indy campaign denying these benefits of indy. 

[steviewevie]

Andy Murray, a true British legend.

[Neil]

Ukraine say that they want fast eu membership, within two years, and the EU are saying no chance. Scotland won't get membership quicker than Ukraine 

[Neil]

The EU one of many places the snp take Scots for mugs. 

[Neil]

just listening to salmond laying into sturgeon - its all going tits* up at the moment.
(*are they natural tits or tits from an op?)

[LJS]

4 hours ago, Neil said:

just listening to salmond laying into sturgeon - its all going tits* up at the moment.
(*are they natural tits or tits from an op?)

Pretty sure Alec's tits are natural.

[Neil]

Sturgeon is giving up riding the unicorn and that's the end of indie. Will it be the return of the sex offender.