UK Politics

[pink_triangle]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

it really isn't just luck, although I agree that is definitely a big part of it. I know as a starmer hater you will always have this to console yourself with, but it isn't true. They have had to work at persuading all those red wall voters they lost to the tories in 2019 along with a whole load of tory voters in other areas that they can vote for labour, and at same time keep traditional labour voters on board.

There are hardly any popular politicians out there...cynicism and distrust is high.

 

The question is would Corbyn , RLB or Nandy be more popular coming into an election. The answer is probably not. In the last election people were actively voting against Corbyn, I don’t think swing voters are actively voting to keep Starmer out.

 

It’s not luck that Starmer ended up here. He could have thrown a tantrum like Chuka, but has made the right political calls. Hopefully he will continue to do the same in power, but will also need some luck.

[Ryan1984]

This is doing the rounds:

 

https://x.com/yougov/status/1808458226142196083?s=46&t=0L-HQje0RJTtiVIvA-C-dQ

 

Think people are forgetting YouGov’s close ties with the Conservatives.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

this time tomorrow the tories will be toast on toast.

[LJS]

58 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

As far as I can see, that is not what he acually said, which is just as well, as he has no right to say such a f**king stupid thing.

[Neil]

Just now, LJS said:

As far as I can see, that is not what he acually said, which is just as well, as he has no right to say such a f**king stupid thing.

rejoining the EU- whenever it happens won't be pretty for the politician who does it.

 

i guess hes anticipating an imminent tory attack of "labour want to rejoin the EU" as  their last desperate campaigning attempt.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 

and the big win is, it keeps Nigel off the BBC. 🙂 

[steviewevie]

The Times not endorsing anyone 

[Ryan1984]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

The Times not endorsing anyone 

Is that essentially them admitting editorial policy restricts them from endorsing Starmer and co.

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Is that essentially them admitting editorial policy restricts them from endorsing Starmer and co.

probably not that cos the sun has just endorsed starmer

(and he very unwisely welcomed it! 😞 )

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

probably not that cos the sun has just endorsed starmer

(and he very unwisely welcomed it! 😞 )

 even the daily mail knows he should have said "thanks but no thanks".

[steviewevie]

 

[LJS]

I have absolutely no idea, so I have followd the example set by most parties in their manifestos & just made stuff up*

 

Labour majority size - 201

Main opposition party..Tories or Lib Dem - Lib Dems

Green or Labour in Bristol Central - Green

Farage in Clacton - Yes

Corbyn in N Islington - No (but I would love to be wrong)

Galloway in Rochdale - Please God No.

Shaheen in Chingford - No (but I would love to be wrong)

Who has most seats, Green or Reform - Green (more in hope than expectation)

 

 

*all fully costed though.

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, LJS said:

Green or Labour in Bristol Central - Green

biggest loss to labour from bristol central: thangam.

bristol central  will be one of just three seats and with no new breakthru seats, cos they've spent all their campaigning on their target seats.

lowest percentage reform vote to go to bristol. 

 

[steviewevie]

 

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[Neil]

sir tom more's daughter gimme, has been kicked out of running the charity. good.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy79q7ej49yo

[steviewevie]

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[steviewevie]

8 hours ago, Neil said:

biggest loss to labour from bristol central: thangam.

bristol central  will be one of just three seats and with no new breakthru seats, cos they've spent all their campaigning on their target seats.

lowest percentage reform vote to go to bristol. 

 

 

yeah think will go Green. Quite like Thangam Debbonaire though, a culture sec who likes culture...but Carla Denyer seems pretty sharp and would be good to have her in parliament.

[lazyred]

11 hours ago, Ryan1984 said:

Is that essentially them admitting editorial policy restricts them from endorsing Starmer and co.

Their tone has been anti labour all week. They've had lots of stuff about vat on school fees recently and did 3 days this week on Starmers record as a lawyer. 

Popbitch reported they were going to back the tories because the new editor is a right wing mate of Boris. So neutral is a win I guess 

[LJS]

[fraybentos1]

4 minutes ago, LJS said:

Good one! Never ever heard the SNP-loyal calling Labour red tories! Very original 

 

SNP must be totally perplexed that their usual attack lines are falling on deaf ears. Losing 20 seats would be a good night for you guys 

[zahidf]

Quick results prediction?

 

I'm going Lab: 400

Con: 135

LD:65

REF: 3

Green: 2

SNP:24

OTH: 12 (Including corbyn)