UK Politics

[Neil]

1 hour ago, mattiloy said:

https://x.com/bbcpolitics/status/1746460963534934358?s=46
 

God Starmer looks absolutely tiny compared to Cameron here

he wasn't nicknameds fat dave for nothing then!

[Ozanne]

 

[Crazyfool01]

tories getting hammered in QT tonight despite Fiona Bruces best efforts ... they are done well and truly 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Crazyfool01 said:

tories getting hammered in QT tonight despite Fiona Bruces best efforts ... they are done well and truly 

yep, country is ready for change, and the change they'll go for will be a safe-ish option of labour rather than taking a punt on something new and untried and unknown , such as reform or greens, or galloway.

[Neil]

the change people want is a change that will improve this f**ked country, its known that labour can deliver change to improve on the tory f**k-ups,  but greens and reform are untested and uncertain in what they can do.

 

there needs to be a nothing to lose feeling for either of them to break thru, a change of voting system won't make people want to take that risk- they're on that outside cos they're not wanted and not because the voting system makes it difficult to win.

Edited March 14 by Neil

[Neil]

not a may election says sunak, so a summer tory leadership election instead.

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[SalviaPlath]

17 hours ago, steviewevie said:

3 MPs, right?...2 were because of antisemitism allegations, 1 was because of harassment charges.

Kate Osamor didn't say anything Antisemitic. The lesson of the Holocaust was meant to be "never again" for everyone not just some people. 

Diane was making a comment about passing albeit in a clumsy way. Nothing Antisemitic about it and she swiftly apologised for any misunderstanding. Had she been white everybody would have been falling over themselves to welcome her back in the party. 

Steve Reed and Neil Coyle both said much worse things and are back in the party. Starmer has a problem with Black women. A lot of white men do sadly.

[steviewevie]

19 minutes ago, SalviaPlath said:

Kate Osamor didn't say anything Antisemitic. The lesson of the Holocaust was meant to be "never again" for everyone not just some people. 

Diane was making a comment about passing albeit in a clumsy way. Nothing Antisemitic about it and she swiftly apologised for any misunderstanding. Had she been white everybody would have been falling over themselves to welcome her back in the party. 

Steve Reed and Neil Coyle both said much worse things and are back in the party. Starmer has a problem with Black women. A lot of white men do sadly.

I said allegations...not arguing they were antisemitic...but Labour are trying to stamp out anything that could be perceived as antisemitic because of recent history.

Abbott's letter was weird and dumb. I think she should have whip restored, but she probably won't because she's likely seen as disloyal and a problem. I can see Osamor having her whip restored.

Edited March 15 by steviewevie

[Ozanne]

 

[Nobody Interesting]

The government that told us not to have inflation busting pay rises has just accepted a 5.5% rise for MP's and number 10 confirms Sunak will take his.

One rule for them, another for us riff raff

[steviewevie]

October 10th

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

still too stupid to be a member.

[steviewevie]

11 hours ago, Neil said:

still too stupid to be a member.

although she says it's bullshit.

 

[steviewevie]

just feels like Labour are fighting amongst themselves with this racism hierarchy thing depending on what faction you are from...you're a racist, no you're a racist etc etc. I guess get it everywhere though...we probably all are guilty of it.

[steviewevie]

and then there's arguing what is racist, what is antisemitic, what is islamophobic (or even if islamaphobic should be used). On and on...

[Nobody Interesting]

The Civicus Monitor is a real time measure of the democratic and civic health of 197 countries across the world.
Green is good........... Amber and Red are bad.

The UK has been falling in this since 2021.

This should worry you.

 

[Nobody Interesting]

53 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

and then there's arguing what is racist, what is antisemitic, what is islamophobic (or even if islamaphobic should be used). On and on...

I wish people would simplfy it and use the word 'Bigotry' - a once size capture all word for being a twat to others who are different to you or those they are picking on.

Would save the endless arguements about what is racist etc that as you say just go on and on and on

[Ozanne]

I presume if this happens then the media will ask the Tories how this will be paid for? Aka cuts.

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