UK Politics

[SheffJeff]

52 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Yougov deleted that tweet..which is interesting...

Looks like the tweets been done again with an amended graph.

 

[Neil]

3 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

mortgage rates were heading up anyway she just sped it up. Interest rates were rising globally

she twisted things different to anything global.

[Guest]

Rachel Reeves would be correct.

[steviewevie]

worth a read (if that sort of thing floats your boat).

Also, apart from having am amazing name, this Torsten bloke should be in government.

[Guest]

The (Tory) BBC described the recession as 'mild' earlier today, they are trying their best to protect their beloved Tories.

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

The (Tory) BBC described the recession as 'mild' earlier today, they are trying their best to protect their beloved Tories.

it's basically a depression

[steviewevie]

latest discourse

 

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Is that the same Rachel Reeves that backed the BOE raising interests rates to curb inflation?

 

Obviously it is and it is on record that she did back them even speaking at Labour conference on the subject.

not sure she's arguing against interest rate rises to bring down inflation...

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Is that the same Rachel Reeves that backed the BOE raising interests rates to curb inflation?

 

Obviously it is and it is on record that she did back them even speaking at Labour conference on the subject.

She’s arguing against the Tories methods to try to bring down inflation which have hurt the economy. Eg they got rid of the winter energy payments last Autumn and various cuts on help for people in poverty; the Tories knew this would increase the risk of recession but they prioritised bringing down inflation over growth. 

[pink_triangle]

I don’t have a strong feeling about Sadiq Khan changing the names of these overground lines, but it seems to be upsetting the right people .

[steviewevie]

Just now, pink_triangle said:

I don’t have a strong feeling about Sadiq Khan changing the names of these overground lines, but it seems to be upsetting the right people .

maybe naming them after terrorist groups will catch on. 

[Neil]

Bristol turning into stab city at the moment, two recently within 200 yards of my house, by kiddies dressed in black on scooters, scourge of Bristol right now.

[steviewevie]

19 minutes ago, Neil said:

Bristol turning into stab city at the moment, two recently within 200 yards of my house, by kiddies dressed in black on scooters, scourge of Bristol right now.

bring back conscription

[Guest]

Morale of the story is - trust Starmer, he knows what he's doing.

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Morale of the story is - trust Starmer, he knows what he's doing.

1/4 of voters say Starmer has failed on Labour anti-semitism

[Guest]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

1/4 of voters say Starmer has failed on Labour anti-semitism

The data shows that:

Good progress/tackled: 29%

Failed to tackle: 23%

[pink_triangle]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

1/4 of voters say Starmer has failed on Labour anti-semitism

The question is what would the polling be if RLB or Nandy had won the leadership, my guess is it would be worse under RLB, not sure about Nandy. I struggle to see a leader who would have done significantly better.

[Guest]

People really should stop falling for the 'X is a massive crises for Starmer'.

[fraybentos1]

19 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Morale of the story is - trust Starmer, he knows what he's doing.

So it was all part of his plan when Labour backed the candidate and sent out leaflets to houses in the area and then later backtracked under pressure? Don't be ridiculous.

[pink_triangle]

2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

So it was all part of his plan when Labour backed the candidate and sent out leaflets to houses in the area and then later backtracked under pressure? Don't be ridiculous.

The reality is as a politician you are going have to backtrack on occasions, the same will be true if he is PM and is the same for politicians all wings of the political spectrum. To expect someone to get it right all the time is unrealistic, you just hope they are right more than wrong and manage the backtracking in the least damaging way.

[Superscally]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

The (Tory) BBC described the recession as 'mild' earlier today, they are trying their best to protect their beloved Tories.

It amuses me the way that Labour say the BBC loves the Tories and the Tories say they love Labour.

[fraybentos1]

Just now, Nobody Interesting said:

What would it take to admit that perhaps, even in a small way, that Labour might not be handling many things that well at the moment or could that never happen regardless of what they do or don't do?

Starmer could open fire with a  kalachnikov into a primary school and Ozanne would back him to the hilt and say it was great strategy

[pink_triangle]

1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said:

What would it take to admit that perhaps, even in a small way, that Labour might not be handling many things that well at the moment or could that never happen regardless of what they do or don't do?

There are always things that can be done better, unfortunately Starmer doesn’t have the benefit of hindsight. I think he makes more decisions right than wrong, but always room for approval. The question is could another leader handle things better? I struggle to think of anyone.

[fraybentos1]

2 minutes ago, Superscally said:

It amuses me the way that Labour say the BBC loves the Tories and the Tories say they love Labour.

spot on, it isn't perfect but they make mistakes going both ways. Overall I think we are lucky to have the bbc

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

The reality is as a politician you are going have to backtrack on occasions, the same will be true if he is PM and is the same for politicians all wings of the political spectrum. To expect someone to get it right all the time is unrealistic, you just hope they are right more than wrong and manage the backtracking in the least damaging way.

yes, all very true...but pretending that this isn't a problem and everything is fine is silly. He's had a bad week, it doesn't look good, it gives something for Tories to fling at them, and it justifies what many on the left have been saying too. They'll probably be ok because despite all this party discipline still seems pretty strong.

Edited February 15, 2024 by steviewevie