Quadrophobia Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rico_Pliskin said: That's subjective of course And Mad Cool has shifted much more to acts for "casual" festivalgoers than PS. You'd never see acts like Sam SMith or Robbie Williams here. I think the two have positioned themselves well individually, its not as competetive as in earlier years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidoffescassi Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Quadrophobia said: And Mad Cool has shifted much more to acts for "casual" festivalgoers than PS. You'd never see acts like Sam SMith or Robbie Williams here. I think the two have positioned themselves well individually, its not as competetive as in earlier years. We had Miley Cyrus here, come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, davidoffescassi said: We had Miley Cyrus here, come on. There's definitely been a diverging, you're right, but it's also true that there are a lot of very mainstream MC names that you simply couldn't imagine at PS eg. Liam Gallagher, Mumford and Sons, Machine Gun Kelly, Imagine Dragons, Muse, Red Hot Chili Peppers. And Cyrus was a late replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, xxialac said: There's definitely been a diverging, you're right, but it's also true that there are a lot of very mainstream MC names that you simply couldn't imagine at PS eg. Liam Gallagher, Mumford and Sons, Machine Gun Kelly, Imagine Dragons, Muse, Red Hot Chili Peppers. And Cyrus was a late replacement. Also at that point, Miley could be understood as an anti-popstar. She was readying Plastic Hearts by then and she could've well turned out to be a rather good fit for PS. Since then she has obviously went back to realtively dull radio-pop, but in 2019 things were different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidoffescassi Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, xxialac said: There's definitely been a diverging, you're right, but it's also true that there are a lot of very mainstream MC names that you simply couldn't imagine at PS eg. Liam Gallagher, Mumford and Sons, Machine Gun Kelly, Imagine Dragons, Muse, Red Hot Chili Peppers. And Cyrus was a late replacement. I can imagine anything at Primavera, specially after J. Balvin, Calvin Harris, Halsey, or Miley Cyrus, Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion or Migos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohjesus Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 presale APE tickets are £71 but there’s a whopping booking fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, davidoffescassi said: I can imagine anything at Primavera, specially after J. Balvin, Calvin Harris, Halsey, or Miley Cyrus, Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion or Migos. This is a helpful list. Let's park Harris as a one-off failed mindfart/experiment. Ignoring whether they are any good or not, I think what is shows is that they will take any perceived young fresh pop, latin or rap act and applying a gender bias. But when it comes to older (and frankly male) acts they are far more discriminatory and in my view for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 I always wanted to come to Primavera because usually it has so many small acts that never really tour Europe or if they tour they don't ever come more Eastern than Amsterdam but the amount of gatekeeping in any discussion I see around the festival (here, other forums, facebook, instagram) really makes me not want to go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsernameHere Posted December 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Nicklord said: I always wanted to come to Primavera because usually it has so many small acts that never really tour Europe or if they tour they don't ever come more Eastern than Amsterdam but the amount of gatekeeping in any discussion I see around the festival (here, other forums, facebook, instagram) really makes me not want to go I get where you're coming from but trust me, its great vibes at the actual festival and whether you go to see a popstar on the main stage or go to a small stage to see an experimental band - you'll generally find the crowd is into it. Best thing about Primavera imo is the small acts that are hard to see get a really good crowd and some of the shows are amazing. I've been to other festivals where good smaller acts get a crowd of 30 people. Not usually the case here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, davidoffescassi said: I can imagine anything at Primavera, specially after J. Balvin, Calvin Harris, Halsey, or Miley Cyrus, Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion or Migos. I don't see any issue with Halsey or (as discussed ealier) Miley at that point. And Cradi B, Megan Thee Stallion and Migos were super hyped popculture names in their respective bookings year. The only name where I'd agree is Calvin Harris and as others pointed out here before, he was part of an effort to bring people to Madrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nicklord said: I always wanted to come to Primavera because usually it has so many small acts that never really tour Europe or if they tour they don't ever come more Eastern than Amsterdam but the amount of gatekeeping in any discussion I see around the festival (here, other forums, facebook, instagram) really makes me not want to go If it's any reassurance, there is no feeling onsite whatsoever that the festival represents the views of active people on here (who are prob <0.1% of attendees after all) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 Yeah, Mad Cool is confirmed for next year and was all a publicity stunt. What a bunch of twats the organisers are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsernameHere Posted December 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, xxialac said: Yeah, Mad Cool is confirmed for next year and was all a publicity stunt. What a bunch of twats the organisers are. Shocking bit of PR. To think a group of professionals sat there and agreed this was a good idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, UsernameHere said: Shocking bit of PR. To think a group of professionals sat there and agreed this was a good idea... It's now in La Marca as happening in 2024 which is a reputable rag and I'm assuming they checked their sources before publishing. Hadn't Avril Lavigne been leaked as playing this anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankburns Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 5:37 PM, xxialac said: We have a first Ciutat name. Water from your eyes are playing one of the Sunday closing parties, self confirmed. I really hope that we will get the complete Ciutat-line-up this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenova Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, xxialac said: It's now in La Marca as happening in 2024 which is a reputable rag and I'm assuming they checked their sources before publishing. Hadn't Avril Lavigne been leaked as playing this anyway... The only source they quote is the other article, that was already shared. It's also a sports newspaper, which wouldn't have anything to write about if they actually checked sources, and only printed stuff they knew was true 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, bluenova said: The only source they quote is the other article, that was already shared. It's also a sports newspaper, which wouldn't have anything to write about if they actually checked sources, and only printed stuff they knew was true 😉 Actually you're completely right, I take it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsernameHere Posted December 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 If it turns out it is a PR stunt that's crazy. If it's not true, it's still a bit mad that they would announce the festival is not happening in a single image with no explanation. Either way, strange comms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katyaz Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Nicklord said: I always wanted to come to Primavera because usually it has so many small acts that never really tour Europe or if they tour they don't ever come more Eastern than Amsterdam but the amount of gatekeeping in any discussion I see around the festival (here, other forums, facebook, instagram) really makes me not want to go I can honestly say it's not like that at all IRL. This is just a forum, everyone has an opinion, you can't please everyone and so on... but if you like the lineup then I highly recommend you go rather than being put off because some people have complained about a few names. The crowd has been great every time I've gone. There will always be complaints about the lineup but you forget about all of that when you arrive on the Thursday tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 What fresh hell is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, xxialac said: What fresh hell is this? how can Jane's Addiction be in such a small font in such a shi**y lineup?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfidenceMan Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, xxialac said: What fresh hell is this? Its rare that you can look at a line up and say there isn't a single thing you'd go and see. But wow. That's dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrizzo Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, JedTheHumanoid said: how can Jane's Addiction be in such a small font in such a shi**y lineup?? We would have welcomed them well at BCN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fabrizzo said: We would have welcomed them well at BCN Could do a 1-2-1 swap for Dogstar. Great actor, abysmal band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 Flights booked, accomodation booked, 1000 bucks poorer. I really want those Ciutat Shows now, so I can see if I have time for sightseeing etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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