news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

9 hours ago, Neil said:

Israel are now saying they're attacking south Gaza to wipe out the tunnels, same as they said for north Gaza, seems they don't know where the tunnels are.

No, I think they always knew that there were tunnel networks all over Gaza...but maybe they thought just invading North Gaza would be enough, when maybe Hamas had actually worked out they could move south too. There are still loads of Hamas fighters, let alone Hama members...Israel are going to struggle to kill them all without totally destroying Gaza, which seems to be the end goal at the moment. They may as well drop a nuke on it.

Edited December 7, 2023 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

likes of Braverman and Goodwin on the airwaves bullshitting and dog whistling and exploiting this issue for their own aggrandisement and ambition. Braverman in particular, she spectacularly failed as home secretary and desperately tried to get herself sacked and now that she doesn't have to worry about something called responsibility just barks from the sidelines focusing on what tory members get frothy about. 

[squirrelarmy]

PM making a statement at 10

Predictions?

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

PM making a statement at 10

Predictions?

A referendum on leaving planet earth?

[steviewevie]

Greedflation

 

[squirrelarmy]

Information I had was wrong. Presser at 11. 
 

 

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Information I had was wrong. Presser at 11. 
 

 

It will be him defending this dumbarse Rwanda bill. 

[steviewevie]

Rishi has declared Rwanda safe.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Rishi has declared Rwanda safe.

and then blames Labour.

[squirrelarmy]

Also blocked human rights in the process 

[steviewevie]

So, it's about the vote for this bill in parliament next week. He used that public statement to try and set up a divide with Labour who have said they won't vote for it, because he's obviously worried he won't have enough on his side.  It's all about the election, not about actually solving the issue. Usual sh*tty populist guff.

[steviewevie]

RIP

[stuie]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

So, it's about the vote for this bill in parliament next week. He used that public statement to try and set up a divide with Labour who have said they won't vote for it, because he's obviously worried he won't have enough on his side.  It's all about the election, not about actually solving the issue. Usual sh*tty populist guff.

Does anyone know if this will be a free vote for the Tories or if they'll be whipped?

If there's a whip then surely we'll see a few more resignations?  They can't all be this c**ty.

[Guest]

So Sunak has said next weeks vote won’t be a confidence vote. So he hasn’t got the strength to even do that and it’ll lead to even more of a chance that he loses the vote. What a moron. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

Also blocked human rights in the process 

Yes apparently not many seem bothered about the UK PM disavowing certain human rights. If this was Starmer then would be uproar. 

[kalifire]

27 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

So Sunak has said next weeks vote won’t be a confidence vote. So he hasn’t got the strength to even do that and it’ll lead to even more of a chance that he loses the vote. What a moron. 

Rishi is laughably weak at this point.

[squirrelarmy]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

RIP

Have to wonder how long he lived with his symptoms without them being diagnosed. 
 

If he had realised if he was ill earlier could his death have been delayed. 

[kalifire]

2 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

Also blocked human rights in the process 

All in the name of trying to ride the train of populism without having any earthly clue how to do it.

At least Boris knew he had to kiss goodbye to any kind of moral integrity. Rishi seems to think he can maintain that integrity alongside intellectual coherency. He's quickly being taught a lesson.

[steviewevie]

 

[lost]

Good to celebrate the licence fee going up a tenner.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, lost said:

Good to celebrate the licence fee going up a tenner.

lower than expected.

[philipsteak]

2 hours ago, stuie said:

Does anyone know if this will be a free vote for the Tories or if they'll be whipped?

If there's a whip then surely we'll see a few more resignations?  They can't all be this c**ty.

Don't forget the ones who don't think it's c**ty enough

[Guest]

Ha the government with the 50 odd majority are blaming Labour for a vote that they haven’t yet lost. 

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

10 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Apparently in that bill it states that Rwanda is safe for non Rwandans, but unsafe for Rwandans...so we can send asylum seekers there and Rwandans can come and claim asylum here.

maybe we should declare Ukraine safe and send them home. 😛