news & politics:discussion

[lost]

Is it surprising if you actually read the manifestos? Le Pen's is economically very left wing. She's a national socialist in the truest sense of the name.

[steviewevie]

25 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Worst was definitely Johnson in my opinion. Ferguson was one of many advisors, lockdowns were not unique to this country, and he was seeing his girlfriend which was wrong but not massive piss take like Bojo and his partypeople.

also...Ferguson resigned...

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, lost said:

Is it surprising if you actually read the manifestos? Le Pen's is economically very left wing. She's a national socialist in the truest sense of the name.

yeah...I think a lot of nationalist politicians are more to the left on the economy though, right? Economic nationalism.  It's why many on left will likely vote for her, especially as she has toned down her anti-immigrant/muslim/eu stuff.

[Guest]

When does it become enough for the head of our state? How many breaches of the law before she steps in and fires him?

[pink_triangle]

9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

When does it become enough for the head of our state? How many breaches of the law before she steps in and fires him?

The queen isn't going to get involved. Only himself or his MPs can remove him now.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

not sure about too stupid...just thought such rules were for lesser

If we take spaffer at his word he didn't understand the rules, cos he said he  rules weren't broken, but a gathering was a clear breech of rules. 

[squirrelarmy]

What’s the procedure for Parliament when we get a new monarch? Is it dissolved and a new election has to take place? I know it’s been a very long time since it happened. 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

The queen isn't going to get involved. Only himself or his MPs can remove him now.

She probably won’t but there might be some old mechanism that allows the Monarch to fire the PM. She asked about it when Johnson prorogued Parliament illegally apparently.

[Neil]

13 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

What’s the procedure for Parliament when we get a new monarch? Is it dissolved and a new election has to take place? I know it’s been a very long time since it happened. 

no election, parliament is meant to be the continuity that a dead monarch isn't.

[Zoo Music Girl]

3 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

My instinct would generally be to go easy on this as it doesn't seem the biggest crime. I however have no doubt that of it was Boris photo without mask in Scotland she would be on full attack.

This happened to Boris somewhere in the UK, remember there being pics of him on a train without a mask. It's shit to break your own rules but it's a much lesser pisstake than having multiple parties in Downing Street.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

This happened to Boris somewhere in the UK, remember there being pics of him on a train without a mask. It's shit to break your own rules but it's a much lesser pisstake than having multiple parties in Downing Street.

In a hospital as well. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

21 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

In a hospital as well. 

Oh yeah! That was worse. But yeah it's nothing on all the party stuff.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Oh yeah! That was worse. But yeah it's nothing on all the party stuff.

Doesn’t that feel like an eternity ago!?

[Zoo Music Girl]

21 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Doesn’t that feel like an eternity ago!?

It really does!

[steviewevie]

Well Bojo is back in parliament tomorrow lying about whether he lied to parliament.

[Neil]

25 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Well Bojo is back in parliament tomorrow lying about whether he lied to parliament.

if he admitted he lied he'd be lying, he's unable to tell the truth.

[steviewevie]

Yes! Justice for Queen Nic.

 

[Neil]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Yes! Justice for Queen Nic.

xshes makig sure shes not bettered by spaffer, she has been all the way thru covid.

[Guest]

 

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

johnson is going to be in big trouble after the locals, when mps fear for their seats.

[steviewevie]

15 minutes ago, Neil said:

johnson is going to be in big trouble after the locals, when mps fear for their seats.

Maybe. We'll see. The problem for those MPs is who might replace him. Sunak has fucked it. Truss probably favourite now, but I think she's probably seen as a bit risky and possibly won't be that popular with public. Zarhawi maybe a good shout, he's good at media stuff, has an interesting story and did will as vaccine minister but that has got to be an easy gig, not sure how well he is doing as education sec but he's got to be better than last one. Because of the war they might want go for someone with military experience like Mordaunt, Wallace or Tugendhat.

[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Yes! Justice for Queen Nic.

 

It seems a sensible decision to me. However I guarantee if it had been Boris photographed without a mask in a similar situation, sturgeon would have milked it as much as possible.

[steviewevie]

40 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

It seems a sensible decision to me. However I guarantee if it had been Boris photographed without a mask in a similar situation, sturgeon would have milked it as much as possible.

Yeah of course, and the police would have come to same conclusion.

[charlierc]

16 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

It seems a sensible decision to me. However I guarantee if it had been Boris photographed without a mask in a similar situation, sturgeon would have milked it as much as possible.

In fairness people did go on about it when he was pictured maskless in a hospital late last year, as said above, and on another occasion that I can't recall but where I recall him doing that. I don't remember it reaching the level of a chat with the cops that time tbf, but then again, with all the party stuff and other accusations, it's perhaps the least of Boris' current problems.

[steviewevie]

Boris to say he's really sorry again but he really didn't know he was breaking rules and that there were all these other parties going on in the building where he both lives and works etc but...Ukraine needs him so he's staying..

Edited April 19, 2022 by steviewevie