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The problem is that much of the pro-Palestine/pro-Israel argument is presented like a venn diagram with no intersect - we're over here, you're over there, and there's a chasm in the middle. But surely the intersect is the only useful place to be. It is certainly where everyone seeking a peaceful solution would place themselves. I simply hope that at Glastonbury - and everywhere - those who support both Palestinian and Jewish self-determination use language that makes that clear. And I hope those who would deny that right to one of those people are called out for it. Some of the language used in this thread seems to be of the kind that can only be intended to cause division rather than heal it. This has been an issue with a lot of the leftist approach to the conflict (which is obviously awkward for leftist Jews). The obsession with using the word "genocide"(which looks to me like basic Holocaust inversion) is one example. Of course it is possible for Jews to commit genocide, and perhaps before this conflict is over Israel will - certainly Israel's governing coalition includes people who from their public pronouncements appear genocidal. We should be aware of that possibility and ready to respond to it. But (and I don't intend to trivialise what are horrific casualty figures) when the Hamas-run health ministry put the death toll at 34,183 on 23 April and puts it 35,800 today, a rise over 31 days of 52 a day, it is abundantly clear that one is not taking place. Lots of awful stuff is happening and has happened - don't hold back on that. But either desist from using that very loaded word, or accept that by using it you are demonstrating that you are motivated by something other than peace and justice, something darker and more hateful, and that is what other people will see in you.
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By FloopFiller · Posted
Given the shite Saturday headliner options I may well end up heading to the SE corner/Downlow early and stick around for ConMan. I mean, I almost definitely won’t do that because my fidgety drugged up self won’t be able to stay in one place for that long, but it’s an idea… -
By Joey Peeps · Posted
Tend to agree. It has this semi-mythical status but it's not worth the long queue. Once you're in it's fine but would much rather be at the Temple or Genosys. I never ventured towards the dark room though, maybe that's why the queues are so long! -
I'm also looking for the tickets
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