U.S. Presidential Election

[Kurosagi]

Biden only turned into a poor communicator relatively recently 🤣

 

Jury is still out on Starmer being a 'great' leader.

 

I think Attlee died before I was born and I'm not a young man. Can't say I've ever heard any of his speeches to judge.

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Kurosagi said:

Biden only turned into a poor communicator relatively recently 🤣

 

Jury is still out on Starmer being a 'great' leader.

 

I think Attlee died before I was born and I'm not a young man. Can't say I've ever heard any of his speeches to judge.

Biden has always been pretty sh*t at speeches, he has that stammer so slurs..but yes he's got worse.

Attlee was well known for being a sh*t speaker and charisma free.

Starmer is obviously going to be the greatest leader in the entire history of mankind.

 

Hitler was a good speaker.

QED

[steviewevie]

..and actually it is kind of easy for a lefty (or righty) to make great speeches that get people excited...just be a bit of an extrovert, stick your fist in the air a few times, and come out with the usual cliches.

Tony Benn was great at it, saw him talk at Glastonbury and it was hard not to get emotional watching it. Obama also very good...and maybe I was unfair saying he wasn't a great president..he was just a bit disappointing after all the hope. 

[steviewevie]

Trump is a terrible speaker in my opinion...but people seem to love to go see him for some reason...and he usually says a few crazy funny sh*t bits that will get clipped and put on social media and that's what it's all about I guess.

[FloopFiller]

Great ad this. Must be nice for the Dems to have all of these huge musicians just a phone call away for using their songs. Republicans could never:

 

 

[charlierc]

20 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

We sure this isn't just an average speech for him when he goes off teleprompter by this point?

[clarkete]

3 hours ago, FloopFiller said:

Great ad this. Must be nice for the Dems to have all of these huge musicians just a phone call away for using their songs. Republicans could never:

 

 

 

Aye, looks good and haven't they got the Obamas both speaking tonight? 

 

That's surely gonna get some great PR

[MilkyJoe]

25 minutes ago, clarkete said:

 

Aye, looks good and haven't they got the Obamas both speaking tonight? 

 

That's surely gonna get some great PR

I knew Michelle was due to speak but didn't realise Barack was also speaking. Trump is gonna go batshit.🙂

[LJS]

 

 

sing along everyone

 

 

 

 

 

[Neil]

On 8/19/2024 at 6:01 PM, clarkete said:

That's where the really interesting thing will be if she can get this in a direct and simple message in a debate and call it as BS. 

i agree that's what she needs to do, but how she does it is difficult cos trump is very  good at brushing off scrutiny. there's a bit of a limit to how much he can defend himself, because it often  looks aggressive and bullying.

[clarkete]

18 minutes ago, Neil said:

i agree that's what she needs to do, but how she does it is difficult cos trump is very  good at brushing off scrutiny. there's a bit of a limit to how much he can defend himself, because it often  looks aggressive and bullying.

 

On that front saw this today 

"There’s no question Trump is going through self-immolation. He’s killing himself. All swing states are won by independent votes, and he’s alienated the independent vote almost every day with some foolish statement that marginalizes him, and as a result the party — and the majority of independents are educated women, and they’re just turned off by the guy and what he says,” said former Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), a onetime adviser to Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell’s (Ky.) leadership team"

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4835774-senate-republicans-concerned-trump/

 

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, clarkete said:

 

On that front saw this today 

"There’s no question Trump is going through self-immolation. He’s killing himself. All swing states are won by independent votes, and he’s alienated the independent vote almost every day with some foolish statement that marginalizes him, and as a result the party — and the majority of independents are educated women, and they’re just turned off by the guy and what he says,” said former Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), a onetime adviser to Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell’s (Ky.) leadership team"

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4835774-senate-republicans-concerned-trump/

 

even if she was everything 'bad' that  trump claims, she's still less scary than unstable trump.

[FloopFiller]

Obama getting in Trump’s signature ‘accordion hands’ like this is a stroke of genius. Just know Trump is seething:

 

[steviewevie]

 

[Spuddhism]

27 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Best line of the convention?

 

"who's gonna tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those black jobs?"

[clarkete]

Her full speech was great - reached out to so many groups of voters, pointed out all the standard trump tactics that he'll use and also had a great rallying cry for their volunteer army, which I think was a big part of their success. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/watch-michelle-obama-s-full-remarks-at-the-dnc-217587269909

Edited August 21, 2024 by clarkete

[steviewevie]

[Spuddhism]

41 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

LOL

[FloopFiller]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

The amount of people in the replies using this as definite proof that all the other polls are wrong and that Trump is gonna win in a landslide is mind boggling. Don’t know if people are genuinely that stupid or if people are simply trying to boost moral by spouting bullshit. 
 

I’m sure Elon will use this as evidence of the Dems cheating come November, too. 

[clarkete]

I spammed them all some real polls 😊

[steviewevie]

 

[FloopFiller]

RFK Jr seemingly dropping out on Friday and endorsing Trump. No idea how much this actually moves the needle as I  assumed most of his base were going with him because he wasn’t Trump, but I guess we shall see.

[Spuddhism]

2 hours ago, FloopFiller said:

RFK Jr seemingly dropping out on Friday and endorsing Trump. No idea how much this actually moves the needle as I  assumed most of his base were going with him because he wasn’t Trump, but I guess we shall see.

I guess this could be significant depending on the extent to which he was going to split the Republican vote. And it won't matter to MAGAs if it subsequently emerges he was paid handsomely to make this move, which I wouldn't rule out. 

[Spuddhism]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

I see they have now formally refused to allow any Palestinian American, or any of the 'Uncommitted' delegates, to speak on the main stage of the DNC. 

 

Harder than ever to believe the Democrats genuinely support a ceasefire. 

 

That Vanity Fair article is a powerful piece of journalism, btw: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/dnc-2024-palestine-israel

[clarkete]

3 hours ago, FloopFiller said:

RFK Jr seemingly dropping out on Friday and endorsing Trump. No idea how much this actually moves the needle as I  assumed most of his base were going with him because he wasn’t Trump, but I guess we shall see.

They reckon atm maybe an extra percent for him.  If he made him health sec that would be mental though, given his views on vaccines (Inc measles etc)